Game is just completely unplayable for me rn

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10 games of comp today

3 games with leavers on my team
4 games with throwers on my team
2 games with throwers on the enemy team

1 game where we actually got a full proper game

1/10 :clap:t2: :clap:t2:

And they wonder why no one can stand to play this game? We are expected to deal with this crap day in day out while the devs make 0 efforts to address them. How can you have a ranked mode you expect players to take seriously when 9/10 games are a complete clusterfk of garbage.

Respect your players time. We arent just going to sit around for that 1 in 10 game anymore when there is another game to play that doesnt disrespect your time.

Why would anyone continue to play a game where only 1/10th of games are actually playable? And 1/10th is generous. Sometimes i get a full week of trash team after trash team. Why would someone want to continue to invest time into the game when they get so little return.

Games are supposed to be transactional. I pay with my time and money, you offer me fun engaging gameplay in return. Currently this transaction is leaning further and further towards being 1 sided. I am being expected to continue to commit my time and money, why are you not holding up your end of the bargain with fun engaging gameplay? If you no longer holding up your end of the deal why should I continue to commit my end being my time and money

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Yeah, and once you notice and tell that in chat, what you got is ā€œur just trashā€
and no motivation is left to play at all

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I mean what would you like them to do about that? Thereā€™s already leaver penaltiesā€¦.you want to do what with throwers? (besides a report option - which exists)

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I get the feeling thrower = someone who didnā€™t have an amazing game. Not actually trying to lose.

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I mean youā€™re not wrongā€¦

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Make ranking performance based!!!

Why are 1 tricks, throwers and leavers dictating the majority of matches and players ranks?

Game is currently designed more for the benefit of those problematic players at the cost to the average player.

What logic does 1 player being able to completely throw and ruin 4 other players game make? And they lose the same amount of rank as everyone else!!! They only lose 25% but actively throw an additional 100% rank down the drain with them. What a joke. If someone is ruining 4 other peoples games they should be losing more rank than what a single player normally loses.

Performance based sr fixes this. People who are throwing will have much worse performance than everyone else. They should be losing 80-100% rank if they are trolling. Players who are actually trying will still lose some sr for the loss but perhaps only 10-15% because the game acknowledges they were playing fine

People who perform worse should lose more and win less. People who perform well should lose less and win more.

That is how you fix ranked.

Sorry but until my performance actually matters and some potato cant just lock widow and get 0 kills and actively cost me my rank, I cannot take ranked seriously in this game. How can you take a ranked system seriously when nothing you do actually matters and you are entirely reliant on randos to play properly or you lose the same rank as them??? Illogical.

If my widow wants to go 0/17. Cool. She can lose 80% of her rank for trolling because the game sees her terrible performance and punishes her for that. She couldve swapped at anytime and actually started trying but she chose not to. Get rid of her from my games. Then Respect what I have done in the game and give me an actual relative win/loss %

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It is not Blizzard that is disrespectful of your time. It is the people who play this game that have no respect for anyone or anything.

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Game had that before and it had no less leavers or throwersā€¦.and people argued just as much that people were playing where they didnā€™t belong

Im not even anti performance and think it should factor somehow

But you ainā€™t getting rid of what you listed by doing that

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Sorry but the game has never had true performance based sr. It may have had a minimal impact back in ow1. We are talking a couple % either side. Not enough

If I perform well and carry some crappy player I should win more rank than some scrote who cant hit a shot.

Shouldnt be sweating my butt off trying to carry some of the players I have to, just to boost them and only gain the same amount of rank as them. Sorry but they did NOTHING. They deserve NOTHING. Why am I getting scraps after tearing my hair squeezing a win while they throw themselves around

Same for the opposite. If there is some absolute melt on my team who cant even leave spawn without feeding, someone who wants to play genji into zarya mei symm moira and they whiff blade every fight despite us all telling them to swap, they shouldnt be losing the same rank as me. They should be losing WAY more. Fact.

Game should see that person as the main reason we are losing and they should be being punished mode for their lacking performance.

Sorry if you truly perform badly one game, get caught in the crossfire and its just a 1 off cus youre normally good. But there should be some downside to playing poorly. You literally just ruined 4 other peoples games. If its just a 1 off and you normally perform well next game you will shoot back up again cus you overperform in the next match.

It may not be getting rid of those things but it at least circumvents those issues.

Making people gain or lose rank based off their actual performance in a game DIRECTLY reduces the frustration of throwers. It DIRECTLY reduces the frustration of leavers. It DIRECTLY reduces the impact of bad/boosted players.

Sure you will still get throwers, leavers, trolls & people who just are crap at the game. But at least them being crap at the game has less impact on your experience. They may throw your game but if you only lose 10% rank while they lose 60% because we actually take individual performance into account, suddenly losing those games doesnt feel quite as bad. Those people have to actually start performing or they are dropping like flies

THAT IS HOW A RANKED SYSTEM SHOULD WORK. IF SOMEONE PLAYS BADLY THEY SHOULD DROP IN RANK. THEM PLAYING BADLY SHOULDNT DROP EVERYONE ON THEIR TEAM IN RANK WITH THEM

Yes it may not remove those issues, i dont think you can remove them, but it removes a massive part of the frustration made because of those issues.

That is the only way the game will ever be playable to me. When my rank is dictated by how i play, not reliant on randoms. Game can be perfectly balanced, match quality will still be in the gutter unless they change how you are ranked/matched

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Youā€™re clearly not having a good time with OW, might be time to go play something else. No oneā€™s hands are tied here.

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I am. Im playing rivals like everyone else. I only played ow2 today to get some BP progress and waiting for new rivals season which starts tomorrow.

Not really a good excuse

It more highlights the flaws of this game. I finally come back from rivals to play some ow2 and this is my immediate experienceā€¦.

Not a good look when the instant game quality is so poor.

Most people like myself only kept playing ow2 cus there was no alternative. Now there is so theres no surprise everyone has jumped ship. Ow2 has to change or people arenā€™t coming back

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That sort of thing happens all the time - its basically just trolling - you say anything, point out a cheat for instance and you often get the same treatment. People in this game are often quite toxic, though there are of course plenty of really lovely skilled players too - but since THOSE players are mostly playing Marvel Rivals now, wellā€¦ that just concentrates the toxic folks in the one place.

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OW is just straight up not a competitive game at all. Thereā€™s no incentive at all for Blizzard to make good quality games

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And its casual scene is also trash with long queues, giga tanks controlling games, not allowed to speak in chat, cant leave games without being suspended, hard counters in qp the moment you pop off and if you group with friends you get even longer queues and wider matchmaking which leads to more worse match quality.

The game literally is failing both sides of its playerbase right now. Ranked players do not enjoy the ranked experience. Casual players do not enjoy the suffocating experience that qp has become.

If i was a casual player i would never touch this game. Unrewarding to play. Actively punished for playing with friends. You cant talk in chat without being reported. If you play well suddenly the entire enemy team have swapped to counter you. If you arent having fun you arent allowed to leave or youre suspended.

Its the antithesis of casual fun

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Iā€™ve gone on too many runs like that over the years. I used to believe comp had better match quality, but it turns out itā€™s all the same mess, so just play QP. At least thereā€™s no veil of progression or skill there

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i think overwatch made the mistake of punishing players who look for teams or people to play with

if you are more than a 2 stack it takes forever to find a game since it tries to match u up against the sameā€¦ or a 5 stack vs a 5 stack

in reality it probably shouldnt have been that way, people should try and find alike players and not be punished for forming groups. this is where a guild system would have helped too

you solo queue? too badā€¦ it is a team gameā€¦ (i solo queue only but thats my problem and i never had a problem loosing to coordinated teams)

thats the thingā€¦ the devs cater too much to the community or maybe they should have made it more of a traditional fps

the old LFG thing was pretty cool actually if you filtered out all the nonsense lolā€¦

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Open Queue ranked is very chill, if youā€™re willing to only play goats.

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Yeah, but you keep coming back even though youā€™re having a bad time of it. Forcing yourself to finish the BP might be a sunk cost fallacy for you.

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Same here, I was on a winstreak like 12 more wins than losses and suddenly I get throwers 7 games in a row, Iā€™d check their profile and of course theyā€™re all lower rank and with a massive negative WR.

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Dudeā€¦ How the hell would you code this? How do you imagine this would work? Are there other multiplayer games like this where this system exists? Because it sounds like a fucking Nightmare to code.

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