Fun Fact: Bastion mows through Triple Tank in 10+ seconds

For Quad tank it takes him 12+ seconds.

Here’s the math:

  • 2000 Rein barrier
  • 500 Rein HP
  • 2 Second of DM (which later get added to his TTK)
  • 600 Dva HP
  • 150 Baby Dva HP
  • 300 Hog self-heal (which is actually more since he has a passive DR while vaping)
  • 600 Hog HP
  • 2, 100 HP barriers
  • 400 Zarya HP.
  • If Brigitte enters this meta, expect the numbers to rise.

Add that up and it’s 4150 HP for Triple Tank, 4750 for Quad Tank.

Bastion can only do 525 DPS per second, no crits, and it takes him just around 8 seconds to mow through Triple Tank, and 9 seconds for Quad Tank. Tack on Dva’s 2 second DM and you get 10-12 seconds. Also my math doesn’t factor in enemy healing, or the fact that Bastion would need 100% accuracy and no falloff to kill them within 10-12 seconds.

Barrier Buster? More like nothing buster since why pick him when you can just mirror-comp or dive and completely ignore the barriers.

#MakeBastionGreatAgain

#MakeReaperGreatForOnce

By no means have I been rolled by TT or QT, but I find it funny that BOTH Reaper and Bastion are labeled to excel against tanks, but are in fact countered by them. They need to grow beyond their niches, because that’s just a lame excuse to keep them where they’re at and ignore the fact that in reality they both suck.

oH, bUt hEs gOoD oN pIrAtE sHiP? Sure, Bastion works on Pirate Ship but that’s his only relevancy, JUST LIKE HOW SYMS OR TORBS WAS POINT A DEFENSE ON 2CP.

Time to buff him and:

  • Lower Sentry Spread
  • Add Headshots
  • 35% IC on Tank

:raised_hands: Kaplan and Goodman please listen :raised_hands:

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NOt 35% IC 30% IC… You could litterally survive EVERYTHING with 35.

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If you position right you don’t have to worry about shields or dms, and reaper is getting a buff. I am a bastion main.

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Here’s the math-

Kill Reinhardt and the push dies.

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Wrong.

You could survive everything when Nano was applied.

Back then Ana was the craze and people through that those 2 would be unstoppable.

And the 35% IC would only be on Tank. Literally only for 8 seconds, and 3 seconds of standing immobile, transforming.

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What if you throw Brigitte into the mix huh? HUH!?!?!?!

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Why do you gotta remind me.

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wwith 35 you could survive (without healing)

Hanzo Ult
Genji Ult
Dva Ult
(with healing) Pharah ult)
Pulse Bomb
Junk tire.
Seriously… thats a bit to much I agree that is IC needs to increase during Tank but you could not die. 30 is a good buff and not to strong.

Bastion in Diamond, so I know my positioning very well. The reality is that Bastion sucks.

Please look at and enjoy this thread:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/stop-sign-bastion-is-being-forgotten/32040
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He once had 35% and could survive a Pulse Bomb and then survive the subsequent shots with his self heal and/or a Mercy/Ana healing him…

From what I saw he could just out heal it himself, no need for any nano or extra help.

Because if left alone he can dish out a lot of damage.

on console bastion is more or so fine maybe even OP

Wrong, his self healing was needed to survive that.

Which he can still do now, just plop into Sentry and heal and it wastes a good 4 seconds of his ult.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. That was with nano.

Nano has 50% DR, so a Dva ult would only do 500 damage.

35% Ironclad could only drop that damage down to 650 damage.

Literally IC+Nano would drop it to 150 damage, and that’s why people freaked out about 35% IC.

That was also back before they added the DR stack limits.

*would leave him with a little HP in which he could be finished off.

Same as above.

He can do it now too, since he can kill her faster than she can him.

35%, since it’s only 8 seconds and he has to stand still for 1.5 seconds twice just to use it.

30% would be fine if they lowered his transformation time or allowed him to move while transforming.

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I agree 30% sounds better . also let him keep the passive in recon mode

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When i said no healing i ment from healer (Should have specified my bad)

Dva ult WOULD kill him its only 1000 very close if you were like 10 m away u could survive.

if he started to self heal thru pulse bommb and riptire he could get high enough before the tracer could kil him for him to kill it and with tank its a oneshot.

Pharah Ult like the entire thing

The point of my message was to say HE litterally ONLY DIED to the most POWERFULL ULTS IN THE GAME and some of them he still survived
I do not think its a good idea for him to have that again while he does 400 burst damage per shot.

Stats say otherwise.

Even on consoles, he’s at the bottom of the barrels of the F-tier heros.

He does need buffs. Not extreme buffs, but buffs that will make him at least usable, like for countering tank-heavy comps.

The lower damage ults, yes, but even then it would leave him with a fraction of an HP where he could be easily picked off.

The main problem came from Nano + IC where he could survive Dva nukes point-blank. But once again, that blew him out of proportion since he had massive damage nerfs as well as very specific situations where he would survive ults.

*if.

Bastion is #1 target regardless of what tier or comp.

Even being in pirate ship, he’s the first one to be targeted.

Only bad players will leave him alone, but is that ANY different from a sniper left in the back line?

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I very specifically beg to differ. -.-

Go on… check my profile. Please do. I hope my hours learning everything about this character aren’t spent in vain. :upside_down_face:

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No. Dva’s nuke has massive AoE and does 1000 damage. Did you just ignore my math?

A 300 HP Bastion cannot survive a 650 dmg nuke. 650 because of the IC reduction.

Nano is what made it a problem.

How is that any different than a tank? Hog can vape to escape a Dva bomb too, I don’t see people complaining about that.

Bastion’s main focus is high damage but being fragile. Since his nerf he cannot live long enough to do damage. Then we see the rise of tank-heavy comps because those who live in the niche of tankbusting cannot do their job.

As I said before, 35% IC would only be on tank. So if the enemy wastes ults on him then why not just wait till his ult is over?

He literally has 2 1.5 second lockouts that make him a sitting duck. I think that’s a fair tradeoff.

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I agree with u that bastion needs a buff but 35 is just to extreme headshots should come back tho and the sentry spread should be lowered.

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Bastion needs a golden tank gun. Literally unplayable

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