Someone explain downside of full reset every season?
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Short term: It would force people in bronze to be put against GMâs. Even for one match, thatâs a pretty major downside. Everyoneâs first couple games would be a disaster.
Long Term: People who do well despite that will escape whatever level theyâve been stuck at.
All in all, a reset is a really good idea for most people, it would just be a lot of chaos at first. I guess the devs wanna avoid that for now. They already get harassed over âWorst matchmaking everâ. Imagine how much worse that would get for them if 6 bronze players went up against 6 Diamond+ players.
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Volatility. Blizzard fully believes, and in my opinion rightfully so, that having highly volatile periods at the start of each season is not healthy for the game. It would result in a lower quality of matches for just about everyone. If you are a high tier player getting stuck with people who should rightfully be in bronze against a team of other decent players you arenât going to have fun. Like wise if you are a bronze player and the enemy team gets a top 500 Genji main, that match isnât going to be great either.
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But this is happening already on a very common basis with all these smurfs, imo it wouldnt be that bad.
Back in S2 there was already a soft reset and games where one player who belonged to plat and another in top 500 were in same match werent rare, still had more intense games back then then now.
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I totally support full resets between seasons.
Yes, you will maybe encounter masters, but maybe youâll have masters on your side as well. Plus you really have a chance to do your best and unstuck yourself from the rank you are in.
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Ok letâs assume all your placements are with GM players and you are a silver player. You place diamond but again you are still a silver player. Now you proceed to fall from diamond, through platinum, through gold, to where you currently are. Over all the rank you are stuck at is generally your rank especially if it is season after season.
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The downside is that there would be no match making for the placement matches and itâs also very likely that people will be placed in ranks that they donât belong in. What if thereâs a game with people who were previously gold and below and for some reason one of them had a top 500 who just farmed the enemy team.
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ok, so imagine you are a bronze player you have always been a bronze player and you like to play comp. Now at the start of every season you are going to have plats and diamonds and even masters skilled players in the same game as you.
Sometimes they are on your team and sometimes they are on the enemy team.
Regardless its very unfair to put a bronze player against / with a master or diamond player in a competitive setting. There is a big difference between a bronze and a diamond player, and putting them in the same comp match where things should always be fair is not ok, the matchmaker always needs to give a equal opportunities for every game (people who have played against gm smurfs is going to understand this) and I really need to empathize the two words EVERY GAME
If you are good enough you are going to climb, If you are not good enough to rank up, thatâs your rank, keep working hard and try to improve and everyone should be able to rank up to their desired rank
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At least you have a chance.
As a support I feel like I have less chances to impact the game, plus at the rank I currently have, I often meet teams of support mains, which let me think that too many supports are stuck in the same rank.
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GM is top 1%. How often do you see GM in quick match? Matchmaking disaster is better than being stuck in same rank every season. Rank reset will force silver/gold players to give their 200% during placement. Placement matches right now 10 wins or 10 loses you place same what a joke.
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You have a chance yes, but itâs going to suck for everyone you get placed with when they have to play at Diamond with someone whoâs actually silver.
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Full resets just wouldnât be fun. Youâd have chaos in your games all over the place as people are effectively just thrown together at random with no intention of making a balanced game. Youâll have pros that get sunk to the bottom simply because they always got paired with beginners, and vice-versa. Youâll have people placed in wildly different places each season, to the point that rank wonât even matter. After all, whatâs the point of grinding through ranks if you know people of different skill are distributed all over the place? Whatâs the point when you know in a couple months, your rank will be null and youâll go right back into determining your rank through placements?
the ranks would be all over the place, and the seasons are so short that this would happen often, maybe if the seasons were a year long like league of legends then maybe, but with only 2-3 months for each season i dont see an upside. and no other esport with seasons does this, obviously there are reasons why
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But this is happening already on a very common basis with all these smurfs, imo it wouldnt be that bad.
This is the equivalent of saying illegal things should be legal, just because people do it, smurfing is not allowed and if you see someone obviously smurfing you should report them.
just remember that alt accounts are different from smurfs.
We would have months of the most 1 sided matches youâve ever seen until everyone barely gets back to where they should be then it resets again.
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This will accomplish nothing.
You will have bronze-silvers being grouped with/against Masters-GMs, making for very one sided or unfair games. Some people who were low rank will end up being carried to a higher rank they donât belong in because they got lucky and had a bunch of high ranked people on their teams vs teams of low ranks.
And after a few weeks and months, the people who were low rank will end up back in low ranks, and those who were high rank will end up at high ranks. Those who ask for SR resets are just making up another excuse as to why they canât climb up the ladder.
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Maybe we can have more than 10 placement matches, to have a more accurate score. I see too many people buying a second copy of the game to unstuck themselves from their placement, thatâs unfair.
There are people with old account on gold and the other one on diamond. Same characters played. Whatâs the right rating?
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The problem with having played for multipile seasons is that your hidden MMR becomes very heavy. So people buy new accounts and will obviously have all around better stats which can improve their rank when they do competitive.
I have 3 accounts myself. I made my 2nd account when my main had dropped from Diamond to gold and I was climbing back up to Plat which took a long time. The account placed mid plat. Eventually I got both my main and it to Diamond. My third account placed low Plat because I 1-tricked a hero I didnât really play on it but that got 1 game away from Diamond as well.
In a ladder based system, being where you deserve to be and climbing are not always going to be the same thing. You may actually have the skill to get to a higher rank but climbing up there is also based on luck and grinding.
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Smurfing is very much allowed. Blizzard even makes money off of it on PC lol.
What is not allowed is intentionally dropping your rank to get easy matches.
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Smurfing is playing on another account and getting in a situation where you get in a rank where you donât belong and keeping yourself at lvl on purpose. (doing this like not playing at your best, throwing etc)
blizz has said multipal times that smurfing is not allowed
Playing on a second account called Alt-accounts (simply having a second account where you dont throw and try to play at your best)
is very much allowed though.
think you got them mixed up.