I’m a Moira main (pretty obvious). I’ve played Moira at every rank except from top 500, and I honestly do want changes for her. But this? This is not the way to go.
Moira is meant to offer 3 main things. Healing, damage and survivability. No game changing utility- the player is just given the kit and expected to make use of it. That’s an okay space for Moira to be. But here’s the thing- if you wanna give a hero utility, they should have high skill floor and ceiling. Moira has a low skill floor, and this buff just makes her better in every way.
This buff is problematic because it allows bad AND good Moira players to get more value overall. I just hope they don’t go through, because Moira will become busted and then get overnerfed because of the community reactions.
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Finally a logical support player in these forums
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I disagree do it, I cant wait to see bizzaro changes to the rest of her kit to try and justify this
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As a Moira main I’m open to atleast try these changes. BUT if it leads to fade’s cooldown going up because it’s too good then I would just scrap those changes all together
Damage orb tweaks seem good overall.
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i like her non fade changes…theyre a better direction relative to the other things they tried earlier…
im not sure how to feel about the fade change itself though…feel like it exists solely because people have asked for utility…not sure she NEEDS it…and certainly not sure if its a good change in that regard
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Idk I kind of like the Moira changes. I think they raise the skill ceiling quite a bit, and add some more meaningful decisions to the hero. If the numbers need to be adjusted from here to make it work, fine, but I like the direction they are taking the hero.
Edit: But I understand; people on this forum act like the sky is falling with literally every patch.
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I agree and I’m afraid that after they make her OP they’re going to nerf her into the ground like they did with mercy after the rework. So hopefully blizzard realize this is a bad idea but let’s be honest they’re not.
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Nah everything but the Fade change is great.
Especially the lock on decrease.
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Yeah, no duh… It’s a buff. You could make that argument for literally any direct buff.
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My bet is only orb and grasp changes will go live, BUT all the Genji changes went live so who knows.
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Having an ability that gives your entire team immunity for 1sec with a low cooldown of 6seconds, is absolutely insane and on a completely other power level.
It negates completely some heroes ultimates such as Rein’s earthshatter (impossible to stun now), Zarya’s grav(just fade out), Rein’s charge is even more worthless and so on.
What are they thinking with these changes…honestly.
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These changes need to go through they actually went the right way with Moira without butchering her like they did brig I hope they go back and do the same reasonable things to brig
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You mean nerfs right?? That doesn’t make sense because she will just be bad. Fade buff is not even that strong.
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Her current kit is fine and she does the lowest dmg in the game. The only reason there is a new Moira experimental card every few months is because DPS keep whining about her being OP. I wish they’d just leave her kit alone she doesn’t need a weird fade buff.
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Orb does more DPS now, fade I’m not sure still, maybe if they increase CD…but really dont know(on paper is strong).
The direction they’re going seems interesting but it’s giving me Mercy rework vibes where they went too far and will cause a later guttting of the character just to keep the rework in the game.
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She doesn’t anymore. They reduced the beam width by 37%m, they reduced the orb radius by 25%, they reduced the damage in orbs maximum radius by 50% and now she has to make a choice between using fade to jump into danger in an attempt to save a teammate or keep it for her survavability. You know like how Ana has to blow her nade on self sustain or toss it at an enemy for anti heal. Moiras skill floor and ceiling were raised.
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It takes 0.8s for fade to end after they pressed it, idk how ur gonna invuln ur whole team from a shatter. Would be dumb luck, or a huge prediction on the rein and would be so rare with how long it takes.
She could always fade out of grav, now she can use it, stay in grav to make team invuln for 1 sec, but is now stuck there herself.
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To be fair, they did reduce the angle on right click by 37% and the way Orb works now it has a smaller window to do big damage, and a smaller AoE overall.
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I’m not going after the other healers here because my god blizz needs to leave the support category alone, but aside from like mercy and brig (after her recent nerf) Moira is one of the worst picks in terms of her kit, she’s a bit rubbish.
Ana is like top tier right now, Zen has an ult that keeps everyone alive, Lucio’s ult is powerful, and Baptiste can stop your entire team from dying. Moira’s utility is garbage aside from healing output and even that got nerfed a while back.
She used to be a meme pick anything above plat before goats and everyone used to think she was the worst support, now everyone thinks she’s OP for some reason and I really don’t understand why.
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