Sojourn wasn’t net buffed with these changes. She was nerfed in every way except 1.5 more energy per shot with armored bodyshots which means very little in the grand scheme of things
Her energy gained per headshot against armored targets was nerfed from 7 to 5
Her energy gained per headshot against all other targets was nerfed from 10 to 5
Her energy gained per headshot with damage boost was nerfed from 13 to 5
Her energy gained per bodyshot with damage boost was nerfed from 6.5 to 5
Her primary damage per bullet went from 10 to 9
Her energy gained per bodyshot against armored targets was buffed from 3.5 to 5
As for Roadhog, I’ve seen more than a few people saying “Omg you killed Roadhog, you’ve already had these changes to him before and he was garbage” but they’re conveniently forgetting that Roadhog now has more health, heals more with take a breather, has a better ultimate that he can hook and heal during, and has the tank passive. He had none of those things back in the day.
Lets take a chill pill and play the patch for a week or two before we bring out the pitchforks
Tbh, I’m more annoyed that they’ve done literally nothing to address Matchmaking issues.
Both in changes to matchmaking code per Role, but literally anything to make the Support role more popular.
It shouldn’t take them 10 weeks after releasing Ramattra to finally getting around to doing something about it.
Like there’s all this fuss about keeping the top 1% of the playerbase happy, meanwhile 100% of the playerbase has to suffer with bad Matchmaking. And the devs are just bleeding out players like crazy the whole time.
And that’s most upsetting about that, is that you know they could just drop in a Hotfix balance patch for Supports that isn’t perfect, but good enough, at a snap of their fingers. But they just aren’t.
Not really. With only 1 tank the issue with support survivability doesn’t come from sojourn in most non diamond and up games, it comes from flankers diving on support with no punishment b/c the team just ignores your mic calls bc no one is in VC.
The Hog nerfs yes. Sojourn still needs more nerfs. Until her railgun can’t 1-shot anymore (even with damage boost or discord orb) then we won’t be happy.
It would be a logical and reasonable thing to do. Considering they also just lost an entire region for this game and whatever MM we have right now sure isn’t going to help retain players. Nobody likes an unfair match. Even if you’re on the winning side and especially if you’re on the losing side.
What would make the role more appealing? It’s already very capable. What is fun if not capability?
Well I already know you and I disagree as to what should be done. I think the Support role is pretty much fine even if a few heroes in it might need a buff. I think the new supports coming over the next several months are the answer, that’s about it. Kiriko did a lot for the Support role and making more people queue for it, and I think the next 2 supports will just add onto that.
Contrary to what several people have said over the past several months, new heroes are a long term solution.
Feel free to be annoyed by changes.
Being annoyed is different than thinking Roadhog is dumpstered or that Sojourn is somehow stronger just a few hours after this patch went live. That’s just irrational.
What supports in particular do you think are vulnerable to flankers to the point that they can’t defend themselves effectively?
Beats me, I’m the flanker and complaints are still coming.
Nerfing stuff clearly isn’t the way, we gotta stop before we nerf the entire non support roster.
Irrational? You do know by reading the patch notes we understand fairly quickly how this will impact the game, right? Hog was just dumpstered. Sojourn will still be meta.
Blizzard has proven over the last several years they are bad at balancing this game. This specific patch is no different. It’s irrational not to at least admit to that fact by now.
I really don’t notice any differences compared to OW1… sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes its close, sometimes you stomp, sometimes you get stomped, nothing new. These are all things I’ve seen for years in OW1. In both games I often think “what are you doing” towards my teammates actions. It’s pretty much the same. Multiplayer games in a nutshell. I’ve seen it in every multiplayer game I’ve played. There is no perfecting the matchmaker. Humans are inconsistent. Every person in a match could have the same exact SR to the number and there will still be stomps one way or another.
I’m not sure who even needs nerfs at this point tbh. Might just be buffing in the next patch depending on how this patch plays out
Yea… no. The forums have proven time and time again that they can’t gauge balance from numbers on a screen.
No. You guys have been saying this over and over again, and I think its time we stop sitting around and waiting while dumb move after dumb move happens for Overwatch. I’m not saying we need to run over to Blizzard HQ and take over, but its more than fair to say “These changes look dumb” if we think they look dumb.
I have to admit… the community called out the sojourn tuning when season 2 first started. Everyone immediately said she was going to be far stronger than before and it actually turned out to be true. Sometimes we arent always right, but we arent always wrong, either.
