Forced Losses or Horrible Matchmaking

Competitive Discussion
1

Well, I was enjoying this game. I worked my way up from my placements at silver, to Diamond 2, I deranked to Diamond 5, worked my way to Diamond 3, and Deranked to Plat 5, and then back up to Diamond 2, and now im at plat 5 again, and this last part has been insanely annoying and it’s not even remotely fair and there is no way the system isn’t doped to make you lose after what I have been through.

I have literally lost almost 60% of my games for 2 straight days. My teams, are soooo unbelievably outmatched, its absurd they were even match together. I’m talking, I’m a Diamond support, and people on my teams are complaining about how, this is gold get a life this is plat get a life learn to play, etc. My Tanks will literally chase supports across the entire map, no objective play, my teams, they keep dying, and then running back to the fight and fighting 1v5, the people are 1v5 and 4 ppl just died on my team and they use their ults, the teams, they are all complaining about the amount of healing. I haven’t played a game in like 5 days where someone didn’t complain about lack of healing saying the support sucks.

People are BM’ing, insulting, typing, quitting games, ive had 4 losses due to someone dc’ing or decided to leave in the last 2 days. 50% of these games, the other team rolls to the last point where my team has kills in the low single digits and they have like 20 kills a piece on the other team. And when it’s our turn we end up getting spawn camped or unable to make it to the first point.

What I’m wondering is, WHY WHY WHY what is going on why are all the games so low quality. Its literally most of the games. I was in Diamond 2 with a 63% win rate on my main and now im down to 56% and I can’t win games because the other teams, are literally so much better than my teams. The losses I’m facing is like my team is all brand new and learning stuff and the other team is a 5 stack. I can pick a support and counter dps ults etc and it makes no difference, my team will get hooked by Roadhog 150 times a match, headshot 400 times by snipers, while we wait to group, or just run in and get 0 kills and die, my teams are negative K/D ratio at the end, I’ve had like 20 games in the past two days where enemy reapers walk in straight lines and my DPS don’t headshot, its insane we are at Diamond or at least I am, and they are not hitting headshots on someone walking in a straight line not dodging shots. I’ve literally had 1 rein in the past 3 days block a shatter, 1 genji deflect grav, and its so dumb. ITS SO DUMB my teams are like all playing meme stuff and the enemy team is try harding. I have a fricken doomfist torb bastion comp and the enemy team is zarya, genji, sombra, sojourn, Why is this happening. What is happening. Why are the game suddenly horrible and feels completely unfair, the people in my games, are literally saying, this was totally unfair. Its not just me.

I know nobody wants to read this crappy post. But in OW1 I solo que’d Brig, Mercy, Ana, Moria, Baptiste, Monkey, Hanzo, to Diamond. And in OW2 I have peaked as Support as Kiriko at Diamond 2 with a 63% win rate, at the time.

I know how to win games, I literally am so critical of myself its bordering on unhealthy. I’m not blaming players, its skill. Its awareness. Self Preservation. Gamesense. Positioning. The games. are. not. fair. I am facing lopsided teams every other game. Its horrible. I can’t lose 50% of my games because the match maker makes the other team 10x better, and then win a fair amount of games in the fair matches and have a good time. This is fricken miserable. Its horrible, its not fun. And I don’t know what has suddenly changed but whatever it is, it sucks.

And as a side note, the amount of interactions in this game right now that favor dps and tank is absurdly annoying. My sleep dart will make a noise, but it will cancel because, the other thing hits first. My protection suzu will hit the ground and have the effect and sound, but hammer will hit me and it reset CD. Dying with my bap lamp up. Amazing, thats crazy its supposed to stop my death but its up and im dead. My target is dead. So great. My nade damaged the enemy but didn’t heal me? INTERESTING. Why did my BRIG FLAIL FOLLOW GENJI THROUGH MY BODY BEHIND ME? IDK. NO REGS ON KIRIKO ARE REALLY COOL. I LOVE WHEN IT MAKES THE SOUND OF HITTING FLESH BUT DOESN’T DO ANYTHING. how often is this, not much, but its too much, its way too much. I need my stuff to work, its important for things to make sense. This doesn’t make sense. ’

I just don’t even know what to write that’s compelling or interesting or relevant. I wish I could communicate well. I don’t know how to say how frustrating this experience has been. It’s depressing. The thought of joining a game and having a Zarya walk in a straight line up to me with two bubbles while I literally can’t do anything but die makes me want to frisbee my computer out an Airplane hatch. I love Overwatch, I love playing support, but there is a huge problem here, in that, you have to literally be so good right now. It’s so unforgiving, all the DPS headshot, like with 50% of their shots, I don’t understand, I can’t headshot that frequently, honestly, I can’t barely see the head of a target, in fact, most times, I will think to myself, that widow was visible for like .24 seconds, and then when I see the kill cam, she was literally standing there for like an entire second placing a headshot. I feel like I’m being gaslighted by the game. There is no way, I just watched the enemy, be there for like, A FRACTION OF A SECOND, and in the kill cam they are there FOREVER, ITS SUCH A LONG TIME. IT DOENS’T MAKE SENSE. The game isn’t making sense. It’s like I have something wrong with my eyes, or my brain, like everyone can see things 5x faster than me. And my team is, complaining about heals, and i’ve used beat during this genji’s blade like 5 times but my team for some reason hasn’t killed Orisa in the last 50% of the maps time because she’s literally impossible to kill with even 1 support helping her. And I lose this game, and then I get into the next game, and my team has literally, like, I’ve ended games, where I have 2 kills on support, and nobody on my team has a kill. Yes Yes, everyone is negative. The fights last for like 3 straight minutes and my team hasn’t secured a single kill. It’s unreal. If you make a suggestion for like, team play, or grouping up, or combo’ing ults, people look at the stat board and say our heals are garbage, our dps are garbage, its a huge tank diff, and we lose.

Idk why this is happening but it has me wanting to quit this game forever. And just remember OW1, and I mean OW2 seemed fun at first, but I’ve lost faith in the matchmaking system, I just think, theres not enough support players so its putting me in horrible games similar to what happened to tank in OW1. Too inconsistent. It won’t be fixed. I’m just, exhausted from trying to remain positive. GG everyone.

50 Likes
2

There’s no answer really that’s just how it is. Matchmaking was never great for support in OW1 but it’s completely broken in OW2.

I’m a bit lower ranked than you but have the exact same experience. One side will have a coordinated experienced team, and the other will have new players who don’t know how to play, don’t know the heroes and usually give up and leave by the second half.

I’ve been on both sides and nether is much fun. There are balanced games but at this point it’s maybe 10% of the matches. I’m honestly bored of the game, I used to play OW1 for hours at a time and had over 2,000 in total. But I can’t get through more than 2 or 3 matches of OW2 before giving up.

Queue times were 15 - 12 - 1 today, on a Saturday evening. That’s tells you all you need to know. There were few support players to begin with and even less now it’s become clear now bad it is to play. If they continue to enforce role queue as the main mode then the game will be dead by the end of the year.

25 Likes
3

TLDR: Overwatch is a waste of time

20 Likes
5

Agreed ,same exact experience for my self and a few others I play with

7 Likes
6

I’ve avoided comp like the plague.

Qp in ow1 used to be quite balanced. Not anymore.

My last qp game on Ilios enemy team scored 4 kills total. Our Reaper had a 35-0 kd. Our tank was 25-1 kd. I was 14-0 on Lucio.

It was ridiculous. Much respect to the opposition for sticking to the end.

Hoping devs can fix things. I think big issue is only 1 tank and fewer on each team. Individual skill variance, especially on tank, matters a lot more.

8 Likes
7

Qp was always terrible, now you have a scoreboard and can see how bad it really is. But now every comp game is like that too.

15 Likes
8

So…
You started silver and climbed up to high D,
Dropped to low plat,
Climbed to high D
Dropped to low plat…

It sounds like you hit your skill level then.
You’re clearly a High plat, low D player.

If you were worse, you’d drop and stay down
If you were better, you’d keep climbing.

The fact that you seem to stay right in that range should tell you something.

4 Likes
9

You didn’t read his/her post at all did you. He/She is not complaining about his rank. He’s complaining about the quality of the matches and teams he/she is being placed with. They aren’t of their Rank, they are new or much lower ranked players.

23 Likes
10

Uhhh, you do realize that there is a huge gap between low plat and high diamond right?.. Not that rank matters here since OP is more worried about the quality of the matches.

But I agree, the games recently have only been lopsided. I roll, or get rolled. Hopefully things change soon once the algorithm figures out where to put people.

4 Likes
11

I don’t think anyone did ><

1 Like
12

Yep. I liked at first when fights were over, they ended. But remember Blizzard wanted Fortnite COD Apex players in stead of us who’ve already given them (not enough apparently) money. Those games are designed around “nonstop” action, plus they’ve systems in place to reward kill streaks or whatever. Forget tactics or strategy, who cares about the Reaper about to blossom the whole team, that’s a you problem . And that’s just it. Who. Cares. Not like anyone gave a crap last season. There’s a reason OW is a joke in the larger gaming community. And new accounts are basically already plat regardless of performance because they didn’t really change the competitive systems. Blizzard won’t admit something has flaws.

3 Likes
13

Games are now decided around which team has less mouth breathers inting the entire game. Super fun experience.

6 Likes
15

I think the issue is that the match maker really doesn’t do a great job with new players.

No one wants the new player on their team. It sounds bad, but it’s true. It’s a team game and your teammates matter.

I think the stomp or be stomped experience is primarily due to an influx of new players. And whoever gets the most new players, loses.

I also base this on the experience of winning games I feel like my team shouldn’t have due to the amount of mistakes I watch them do.

My team is bad. But sometimes the enemy team is worse. They must have just gotten more new players.

5 Likes
16

It boggles me that devs don’t only shove veterans into bronze 5, they then let noobs play in plat.

I actually can’t believe the devs’ incompetence regarding match maker tbh.

Score board makes clear when there’s dead weight on the team.

Two games today, qp 4 stack, we get a 10-11 kd Tracer and a 3-10 Genji.
We lost those.

8 Likes
17

Last time i played in competitive it was season 10. It’s just stress. All season in low diamond, but it was just taking my mental health with it. Best decision ever done. Anyway, too bad right now even unranked is trash with rigged matchmaking, who place you with newbies. Basically they use you with a lot of skins to incentivate people new player to buy stuff.

3 Likes
18

Jokes on them I don’t even look at anyone’s skin when I’m playing lol. I mean skins are nice and all, but they don’t do anything for the game play experience. They just cost $$$ that’s it.

This is how games fall apart. The companies put their resources into the shop and the game play suffers. The Devs are too busy churning out skins and charms, recording voice lines, artists making banners/sprays all the while nothing is being done about the core game play or the horrid matchmaking.

Yet people still buy the crap. Literally saw a post where people were glad to give blizzard 25$ for the Kiriko skin bundle and many other bundles. This is what drives these companies. The people that will just throw money at them and not think twice what they are buying or if it is even a good purchase.

2 Likes
19

Platinum games have bronzes in them and it’s auto loss. I don’t get it. I also have had a bastion in 8 straight games today and they can’t get anything done with a hard pocket even. Support is rough rn.

I also have had tanks run away from my beat drops and walk into mei Ults for no reason. The blizzard was across the map and hog decide to go see what it does. **** this game.

7 Likes
20

Welcome to 50/50 mate

2 Likes
21

I experienced the same and it really does feel horrible.
Leavers, people being just at the other end of the map, trying to flank, but die (ofc), people not switching, because they don’t even understand or think of how counterpicking works, not turning around when there is an enemy in the backline f***ing everyone up, running in one by one constantly… Just no one cares. I hate it.
I played in low-mid diamond and now I’m gold. Not that I’m a great player but now almost every match I just pause, look around, watch the chaos and be like ‘??? wtf man’. It’s so so frustrating.

7 Likes
22

See, my running theory is…

Skill ratings don’t matter when the matchmaker can’t match evenly skilled teams.

sorry for big text, needed to be said :smile:

15 Likes