For those: "Mercy was weak before her Rework"

I remember a brief time during Ana’s heyday where everyone said Mercy is a crap healer.

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Ik you’re probably trolling here, but there is a difference in terms of what “meta” is and how heroes are ranked. there is a difference between a “pick X or you’re throwing” character, and “ehh, this characters better to play now because my favorites not doing so well” character. Before Mercy’s rework, the highest tiers would still play ana, and a lot of her. There were other factors that started to let mercy see more play- hogs rework ie, “his death” as several people called it, buffs to barrier heroes like Winston and the introduction of Orisa- who ana’s Particularly weak to because she cant heal through it, the emphasis on mobility- another area ana can’t keep up with mercy in…

like. Mercy wasn’t OP, she wasn’t even really that strong. She was just necessary, and then because of her rising popularity, people noticed there was a bug in her SR gain from rez that started to encourage really nasty gameplay. the bug? getting that Huge Rez would let you get TONS of sr. Then that playstyle became popular, leading to the “hide and seek” playstyle that pros complained about…and then we got the moth.

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Probably because they gutted Ana recently at that time period? To the point where she had 60 damage on her M1?

Just a thought but if it doesn’t fit your narrative then I guess you’re not gonna mention it.

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Imma let you grind your axe in peace but

  1. SR exploit
  2. Invulnerability buff

were the issues with pre-rework Mercy.

The whole hide & rez thing only worked because the SR system rewarded Mercy players that waited for the big 4-5 rez ults even if it lost them games. Hence you’d see GM Mercy mains with pretty awful winrates that most likely did not belong there. Yet despite all that…she was still far more in line with other supports in GM than today. Let that sink in for a moment.

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It’s actually pretty humorous seeing the backpedaling in this thread.

“Of course Mercy was the most viable healer before her rework”

As discordent it is with the usual “Mercy was never powerful before her rework”.

So, mainheal Mercy picked a lot is strange when Ana was even worse against Dive? I think she would even have the invunerability Buff at that time too which
Felt OP

Try a graph from earlier. Preferably before Ana was nerfed into the ground and left Mercy as the the game’s only viable main healer.

You’re looking at pick stats from THE DAY BEFORE MASS REZ WENT AWAY.

Of course Mercy would be a popular pick on that day: Everyone and their grandma was getting in that last bit of classic Mercy playtime before they lost their chance to mass rez for a long, long time.

Would you prefer the pickrates from a month prior, which were near identical, except for GM?

“pick rate is high”

I dont believe these statistics are truthful until you actually realize that this statistic takes into account EVERY hero. and she’s being compared to BASTION.

Until these statistics are chopped up and based off of THAT CLASS, i wont accept it. But you’ll ring it around and say its truth.

Uh, no.

It’s widely acknowledged that there was a brief period of Mercy dominance pre-rework due to Ana overnerfs, the invul buff, and the SR exploit. Oh and that she was meta by necessity for a bit after launch, before Zen’s HP got buffed to 200.

We’re generally referring to the other 95% of old Mercy’s lifetime where she was not a freaking problem and underpowered.

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I’ll take the one from before Ana was nerfed into the ground, please.

So when people ask for a"Revert", are they talking Season 5, or Season 3.

Because I got the distinct impression they meant Season 5.

Why would that be relevant? That version of Ana isn’t in the game anymore.

Well yeah, if you look at those GM stats, they look great, 2nd place behind lucio, only slighly ahead of zen and ana. Your never going to get perfect even pickrates across the board, looks pretty damn good to me.

Because Mercy being the only viable main healer is going to push up her pickrate.

Ana actually being viable was a state that gave Mercy some actual competition for the slot of “main healer”.

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Not disagreeing with that. But this thread is in response to the idea that reverting to this version of Mercy would be “balanced” by virtue of the idea that “Mercy wasn’t powerful before her revert”.

This post is evidence of the opposite.

Yeah, no. I don’t want a revert.

I want nerfed version of Mass Rez to be included in another rework. One that includes the GA bounce and puts something different on E.

The “Mercy wasn’t powerful” statement comes from the fact that Classic Mercy had no E ablity to use to contribute in the midfight. It was a glaring weakness (especially when compared to the other healers) that forced Mercy to rely too heavily on her ult to pick up the slack.

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“LOOK SEE MERCY HERES EVIDENCE WHERE MERCY WASNT WEAK!”

Okay sure, but you conveniently forgot to factor in around that time:

  1. There were only 2 main healers; Ana and Mercy
  2. Around that time, Ana was already weak due to her nerfs and around GM was centered around dive which Ana is weak against btw.
  3. Lucio had been reworked leaving his healing slightly weaker, turning him into an off-healer.
  4. Moira had not been added to the hero pool as an additional main healer

So you cant just use statistics without having to remember the context of it and factors influencing it.

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this was the issue. this is done by the players. not a mercy issue.
Blizzard could of easily fixed that from happening they didnt.

dont blame mercy for havign players absue a mechanic.

this.
before that buff she was considered a troll pick as she would get killed easily. Should of made it a DR buff and not godmode.

this.

I came to game to play Mercy. (why she is #1 hero played by a large amount compared to toal time player)

She did what i wanetd to do…heal and support my team.
her beign a near pacifist lore wise also helped.
(and her skins are super cute!)

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I implore you to get a life. Not in a rude way but all you do is post about Mercy and honestly it’s a bit worrying.

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