For Genji, Just Test this for him. Nothing more or less

Yes yes i know. It’s me again. Ik I’m wasting my time here but I cant help myself. But hopefully some third-party folks outside from the forums can see this too, and have an idea to put into the March Exp Patch coming up outside of the forums (which will probably not happen unfortunately). But I digress, this list of changes can only make genji better and feel more fluidic than in his current state, without turning him into a June monster again:

Improvements:

  • Shuriken Damage Increased from 28 to 29.
  • Primary Recovery Rate Decreased from 0.95s to 0.9s.
  • Secondary Recovery Rate Decreased from 0.75s to 0.7s.
Optional Improvement Change
  • Shuriken Travel Speed Increased from 60m/s to 70m/s.

Toned Down

  • Ultimate Generation Cost Rate Increased by 20%
Response to Optional Change in "Improvements"
  • If Shuriken travel speed improvement is implemented, Ultimate Generation Cost Rate is now increased by 25%.

Bug/Consistency Fixes

  • Deflect: Improved hitbox and interaction of deflect to be more accurate in game. This will prevent the genji from getting false confirmation deflect animations and taking damage while deflecting, so that it will now work more consistently as it’s intended to.
  • Swift Strike: Fixed Camera Lock bug that would make genji become stunned for a brief moment at the end of the swift strike interaction.
  • Swift Strike: Shortened hitbox extension and improved animation accuracy during swift strike animation. This will improve the inaccuracies of genji’s swift strike animation that would make him “appear to be at 2 places at once.” Also to condense the swift strike hitbox for more accuracy purposes.
  • Cyber Agility Passive: Improved wall climb interactions where genji will infinitely wall climb within the same current time frame. Wall climb duration will reset when genji lands on the floor. This will help remove the inconsistencies of wall climb that would sometimes be affected by even the smallest geometrical obscurity in the map.

Thats it. This wont make him op, and this will not make him up anymore. If the state he is in now is weak, but the state he was in June overpowered, but to make all the changes into a midway point for genji as I presented to you here, this will make him a decent overall pick. Slower time to get blade, a small improvement in base kit dps primarily, and on top of his bugs being fixed to make him feel better to use as a QoL change. I’m aware that genji in june needed nerfs, but didnt need full reverts. This hasmade him bad to play again other than being a nanoblade bot the higher you go with him in skill level. With these changes, I’m confident that it’ll make him overall a better hero than now by not pushing him over the top like last time. Thank you :heart:

I need a journal or something to write about these and get these ideas across to someone I swear…

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Nah why would you buff an op character?

tis’ a joke

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you will pay for this T :eyes:

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revert his nerfs and increase ult charge by20% , if you lose to the current state of genji you have problem you need to fix immediately

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Or he bladed and your team didn’t have CC.

:eye::lips::eye:

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The minute you pick genji, even before even thinking about picking him in game, the team already has CCs ready for you :pensive:

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Cuz the devs do love their stuns. :stuck_out_tongue:

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How unlikely is that though?

Like actually, most heroes in the game currently have CC and I’m kinda curious to know how many have CC.

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I’d rather ult charge be nerfed less in exchange for a spread nerf. In Low ranks genji is still a popular pick so making him better will likely make him hated in low ranks. I’d rather take a spread nerf that will only hurt you if you’re a bad genji, that way his value at lower ranks goes down. If you’re playing well as genji, you should be able to get your ult quickly. The spread buff made that too easy to do in July. These buffs are good, but remember to be careful with an ult charge nerf of that size. If his ult starts getting indefinitely outpaced by grav, flux, whole hog, and trans, blade will be absolutely useless. Blade should be nerfed to charge around the same speed as it does now. In exchange, his spread should go from 9 to 12

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I got the magnifying glass out.

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personally if that spread goes back to 12 which i also have no problem with considering that… well no genji main including myself asked or expected that change, i would just flat out go for 30dmg, 0.65s secondary then with a harsher ult charge nerf. Because the spread did make him easier for lower ranks but it made him more consistent, but if we’re gonna lose a bit of consistency, might as well go in with the june dmg and fire rate. Honestly, genji would’ve been fine if the spread wasnt changed with an ult charge nerf. And if we kept the damage and fire rate, that wouldve been fine.

I’m calling the cops. This is invasion of privacy D:

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I’m calling…!
Pancake Police!
I’ll go home.

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Yeah I would love that too. Genji is already very punishing for low ranks because their mechanical skill isn’t good enough to punish double jump. They also struggle with the deflect interaction. Bellow diamond, Ana’s chuck nades into it despite being able to throw it in the floor for guaranteed value, soldiers will helix it despite being able to use the splash on the floor ect ect. The reason he’s hated is simply because he gets value from your mistakes. Id rather take some of that value away with a spread nerf, but buff his potential to be in line with tracer. Tracer is great at high ranks, and Mediocre at low ranks. As probably the highest skill cap hero in the game, that’s exactly where genji should be as well.

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I think I went over this on my stream once but even outside of ultimates it was around 20 heroes who have free counters to blade with basic CDs.

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Your doing gods work here dude

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thats right >:)

As do i. I’ve always wished that genji would be that hero that gets better as you climb with him. Now genji’s design is just… he gets better the more you drop with him. I find it pretty mindblowing that genji is harder to deal with in lower ranks but a piece of cake to deal with in higher ranks. So when they buff him, they take away the buffs that would help him in higher ranks, but essentially created a bigger problem for lower ranks by keeping the buffs to make him more annoying for lower ranks which was ???.

I know for certain that deflect changes are never going away, especially deflect cancel since cancellable abilities are never removed. I can see why they buffed spread for consistency purposes in higher ranks, but then made it easier for lower ranks to understand him. Although, he still has the buffs he has but making his dps better. This intention of the post was to make him better in higher ranks. Although, if blizzard does so happen to fully revert one of the buffs he has, primarily spread, then that dmg and fire rate has to be fully reverted back to 30 and 0.65s as well with a little harsher nerf to ult charge. It’ll still make him decent in higher ranks and make him more rewarding for them as youve said. The problem with june genji was that he had spread, fire rate, and damage on top of it all that brought him over the top. remove one of those and he would be fine with 2/3 of those buffs.

I’m kind of sad that they changed genji, I can’t even hit those three bells in Dorado’s attackers spawn that easily anymore :frowning: And I’m kinda salty because I fought agaisnt mcree and he was left with 5hp when he fan the spammered me to death with flashbang :rage:

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Wat

How about just giving him +1 dmg.

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Nah thats gonna make him busted and op. You know this.

Jokes aside, this is taking the midway point for him. It wont make him busted but it’ll just be better for him. He’ll still be a decent pick. But I’m not letting go of the bug/consistency fixes that he needs because thats been in there for ages. I’m genuinely surprised that blizz has still not fixed those common bugs for genji. :confused:

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