It’s not a players job to fix the game they play. What a silly way to write off someone’s opinion.
And they never said what they would do to make her more balanced. I’ve said many times what I hated about her. I was ok with her one shot but thought 130dmg body shots was stupid. Now I could be wrong on that but at least I’m willing to put ideas out there instead of cry all the time.
It’s not anyone on the forums job either but we do it more than them. And most of us are just normal guys lol. They literally have all day to just play the game and come up with balance suggestions…but they don’t.
flats ? the one that didn’t know you could cancel doomfist punch charge until yesterday !?
We do not feel the top 500 balance changes? What ur on about. Remember the reaper changes in ow1, where they tried to buff him for top 500 but made him completely broken for lower ranks.
Do you know any of these Streamers personally? Do you know what they’re doing every moment they’re awake? They don’t need to make videos on how to fix things. They probably do talk to the devs and you’d not even know.
I wrote this question in my own topic
Only to find out that that’s literally is the case 
Then why don’t they offer these suggestions on stream or in videos? I can come on here and fairly quickly make a post with balance changes. Nothing is stopping them ffrom doing the same.
I wish you could see just how arbitrary youre drawing a line at only thinking anything worth saying is when you’re putting specific numbers on something.
In the general world of design, you work off a general sense and fine tune things until you arrive at a good spot.
This is very fundamental stuff - pick a direction and intended end point, then from there you tune and adjust and arrive at a number, you don’t just wake up and go FIVE DAMAGE NERF FIXES IT.
Streamers aren’t in a position to theory craft what will work best. Thats literally not their job and that approach isn’t helpful. I hope you can see that.
Because not everyone finds that kind of content entertaining. I certainly don’t want to tune into a stream and watch someone drone on about balance suggestions. There’s no reason for them to post here if they already have a way to talk to the devs directly. Telling us their suggestions does nothing.
Then why don’t they do this??? They have all the time in the world lol.
Ok that’s fine. They just want to post drama and cry all stream. But I can point out how stupid and counter productive that is to someone who claims to care about the balance of the game.
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they don’t do this, because they’re not developers.
They physically can’t. They aren’t changing code to make adjustments.
you dont see the irony in what you just said? they buffed a hero in top 500 and low elo felt it. but because they did it like a low elo player would: it turned out bad.
as i said, this is because they are balancing with a low elo player’s understanding of the game. they need to bring in experienced players, top 500s maybe even pro’s to come in and give there opinions on things and to teach them how the game actually works.
because pretty much everyone knew that buffing reaper wouldnt do anything…except the balance team. and that shouldnt happen
No one here is a developer. At least most of us aren’t. Yet there are tons of people on this forum who offer balance suggestions. Idk why you think someone has to be a developer to say something simple like, hey I think X hero would be improved by doing this amount of healing/dmg. It’s so simple
Well Flats and all other CC’s I watch make content aside from how they feel about the game. It’s not really counter productive if they already talk to the devs which again neither of us know.
You’re complaining about complaining which is just clown behavior.
Again, suggestions with exact numbers isn’t inherently MORE helpful than suggesting the direction of a buff/nerf.
Please dude, just… get it.
He’s also very obviously highly biased towards Rein for obvious reasons
They should find a balance between high and low. Because they are buffing or nerfing either for high or low ranks. And either is going to feel it.
Well we live in a clown world so it’s fitting…
So in your opinion who should I take more seriously.
A: Someone who suggests a direction for a buff/nerf
or
B: Someone who suggests a direction for a buff/nerf AND the actual numbers they think will achieve it.
Aight I can’t be upset at that response lmao.
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Both. And I’ll explain it to you in another way.
Remember when ashe was 1 tapping 200hp heroes when mercy was damage boosting her?
Ok so here come some hot takes from the forum, you get;
Yo, ashe shouldn’t 1 tap with dmg buff wtf nerf plz
Nerf Ashe kk thanks, Do it by like 75dmg.
Both are valid insofar as they’re telling you that a hero is over producing. Specifics from any player is a shot in the dark and a fart in the wind - players can’t TEST the numbers in how they pan out in actual games. But players know what direction things aught to be if we’re being consistent with core design principles of OW.