Fix Hidden Passives

Why are hidden passives a thing? I don’t get it? Hidden passives such as Genji & Tracer’s increase natural movement speed, Widow’s higher than normal headshot multiplier, and now Hog’s less ultimate charge granted to enemies, should be made OFFICAL passives with OFFICIAL names.

When Reinhardt got his knockback resistance passive it was listed officialling on his hero information. So why are some passives hidden? New players would never even know about these unless someone else told them.

Hidden passives are stupid and need to be made official. Period.

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Genji & Tracer have a higher base movespeed? Source?

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The wiki :wink: :wink:

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I guess so, though the mentioned things hardly have much impact on gameplay aside from Roadhog

Tracer and Genji you’d be hard pressed to notice if you didn’t already know, and Widow’s can be easily assumed with basic math

If you know how much Widow does on a bodyshot, it wouldn’t be hard to figure how much she does on a headshot if you simply do the math. If you don’t know how much damage she does on a bodyshot, it probably doesn’t matter to you then.

Roadhog’s should be mentioned for sure though since that can influence decision making more directly

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I assumed as much.

Still not seeing something to the effect of ‘Tracer has 10% more movespeed’

Where’s it listed, under abilities?

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I don’t think it’s actually on her page, but there is a page dedicated to movement speed. It’s mentioned on there

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That is exactly why hidden passives need to be made official. Even now, some people don’t even know about them.

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Ahh found it, thanks. It probably should be listed on their hero pages too haha!

" The base movement speed when moving forwards is 5.5 meters per second, except for Tracer and Genji who move forwards at 6 meters per second."

.5 meters a second…boo hoo!

What tangible impact does that have on the game? You brought it up so name a few… :thinking:

Nowhere
That’s why OP is asking for it to be listed

edit: excluding what they have answered you + video comparison, wiki and workshop speed meter

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I can’t believe ppl never knew these things.
I was going to say they are NOT hidden but now I cannot say that…………

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What’s with the troll response?

You said the wiki without defining where it was (which I discovered is under movement speed) and then go on to give all these other examples like I was suggesting it can’t be found anywhere which I clearly was not.

What’s your problem? :thinking:

How would a casual player know about Tracer and Genji’s movespeed difference of .5 meters a second extra?

I hardly would say it’s common knowledge to people that don’t play and research genji and tracer.

A lack of knowledge doesn’t make someone a ‘numbskull’ it just means the information wasn’t readily available.

Also please refrain from insults in an otherwise polite discussion, thanks.

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Which is the purpose of this post. To make that information readily available and common knowledge.

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To which I said:

  1. I’m surprised this even exists as it’s such a small ‘buff?’ I don’t even see how it impacts play in a meaningful way.
  2. I asked you to explain why it warrants being on the heroes info card. What’s it like an 8% ms buff?

It seems to be a very minor balance adjustment that Blizz deems unworthy of notifying players of or giving it the acknowledgement of a ‘full passive’ ability.

Passives seems to be reserved for unique abilities that have a significant gameplay impact (double-jump, regeneration).

I’ll admit Widow’s headshot multiplier would be worthy of noting as a passive (maybe called ‘sniper’).

Honestly I probably learned such a very long time ago from Youtubers discussing such & never actually read it myself but had such info written into stone in my own mind.

If it has no impact then why is it even a thing?

“I watched a YT video one time and they discussed it so everyone should know it.”

You make a claim like this is common knowledge and then your reference is you happened to catch a video long ago that mentioned it.

I’m not having a go but c’mon haha :slight_smile:

I answered it in a later post.

To be fair though, you answer the question and see if you can come up with a reason?

Why do Tracer and Genji need a what…5-8% movespeed boost for? How does that impact gameplay?

It’s a 3rd party wiki
I believe it’s overwatch.wiki.com

I don’t even remember where I 1st learned such info :crazy_face: I just know that I knew such before being told about it reading this just now :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

They’re all about mobility, flanking, chasing, closing gaps. They are the two Dps (other than sombra) that can cover the most horizontal ground.

Did you know that heroes all move slower when walking backwards? That’s why it’s best to not shoot at a rein who is swinging towards you because he’s guaranteed to close the gap. The Mobility helps them peel for themselves in situations were they need to back and shoot. Also applies to closing in on heroes faster that don’t know about the backwards vs forwards thing.

That’s the logical answer isn’t it?

Referring to the OP’s request it should be noted on their hero cards I think it’s too minor a balance tweak to need a ‘passive’ icon.

Yeah knew that one haha, it’s almost a 50% reduction so unlike the Tracer/Genji thing it’s very noticable.