Mercy’s healing didn’t deserve to be nerfed.
She’s the only support that doesn’t do damage (except damage boost but you have to stop healing for that) unlike other supports who can easily heal and do damage at the same time. Now she gets out healed and out damaged by Moira and even Ana.
The problem is her ressurect and Blizzard refuses to acknowledge this.
They could have easily fixed her by just nerfing her old ult (wich was ressurect) like having a longer charge time, decreasing the radius, having a cast time or fixing LoS.
Blizzard decided to nerf her because they didn’t like the idea of Mercy hiding and not healing her team to rez.
Even though right now she still has to hide to rez because of the cast time which causes her to stop healing.
Most mercy players didn’t hide to rez. They would tempo rez to keep the fight going. Some mercy players would hide if their team was starting to lose so they could rez them all, but they would still participate in the fight.
Mercy is so boring to play now and no longer feels good to play (how ‘impacful’ is an ultimate when a Winston’s normal fire does more damage than it?).
Moira and Ana (with decent aim) can also pump out more healing than her (despite Mercy supposedly being the hero with most raw healing power) and Mercy can hardly stop healing to use her damage boost since it’s so slow (and if she rezs someone else usually just dies in the meantime).
Please, just make Mercy fun again! Yes, she’s so close to being balanced. You could probably raise her HPS to like 52.5 and she’d probably be balanced… But she’s just a heal bot now, and her ultimate literally makes her less engaging to play
I agree that your team did a good job at balancing her to make her in line with other supports, but in doing so you completely sucked out all of the fun. I am a strong supporter of bringing back mass Rez with some tweaks (LOS, dmg reduction instead of invulnerability, SMALL cast time, etc). The “hide and rez” strat was blown WAYYY out of proportion, it was used by very inexperienced Mercy’s and they would not climb the ranks using that as tempo rezzes were much more effective.
One thing I would like to stress is that most Mercy mains are okay with her being a sorta niche pick like 1.0, we picked her then because we liked her play style, not because she was strong.
She doesn’t feel rewarding to play more, even pulling off a clutch Rez is kinda like… cool… This is because you can’t earn rezzes anymore, it’s given to you on a silver platter and it doesn’t allow good Mercy’s to shine. She feels very one dimensional and like a very beginner friendly pick. While some could argue that would be okay, I believe that heroes shouldn’t be designed to accommodate for the first few levels of the game, especially with the rather small hero roster we currently have.
Valkyrie in it’s current form feels like a dumpster version of supercharger and a marginally stronger amp it up. It’s not original and it doesn’t define her. Once you get comfortable with Mercy you realize that you don’t need Valk. You learn how to juggle your beams so the chain healing isn’t super useful, and you learn how to get the most out of your GA so the flight isn’t super useful either…
I’m very happy that this thread has been opened up again as it shows you’re starting to look back into Mercy and valuing the player reviews. I urge you to at least try some of these things being suggested (maybe expand the PTR to test balance changes, not just bugs).
Of course they’re done, there’s nothing left to nerf without sending her to D tier or lower. She is now what they wanted her to be, the ultimate moving healthpack that is no longer a threat .
Consistent healing > Inconsistent healing. Moira has resources to manage, and Ana must have good accuracy to maintain high healing. Most of the time their heals are around the 70-80 hp/sec range. Having 100 hp/sec will be more than enough to keep targets alive.
I’m trying to improve the ultimate and not make Mercy a must pick. We don’t want another moth meta but we do want Valkyrie to be a strong ultimate again, since Blizzard NEVER reverts design balance.
Finally, I said get rid of chain heal. I didn’t say get rid of chain damage boost.
I don’t want Mercy reverted, but since I’m apparently in the minority my voice doesn’t matter.
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Reading through the last few hours since my last post and I’m still not surprised the dev’s haven’t responded in the way that the users in this thread would like. Everyone is hostile towards them, I wouldn’t want to cooperate with individuals like that either, yeesh.
A revert would be nice, but extremely unlikely. I’ve played Blizzard games for 15 years and have not seen them go back on a design change like this. Even if it was the right decision to make. This is why I wish to modify her ultimate and not revert.
Moira has AoE heals and crazy damage potential, good escape, can survive any situation and doesn’t normally require help from anyone else to win a one on one fight with a squishy DPS or run away.
Ana has a crapton of utility, is a sniper healer which means she can be very far away from the battle and still give out heals, can sleepdart a hero, taking them away from the fight for 7 seconds and bionade for more heals or healblock.
Mercy has… A shtty res? Uhhh… Hmm… Well she can also FLY, I guess, which also makes her hitbox 1.5x bigger, making her a huge fking target in the sky for everyone to focus their fire on? What else does she get? Her heals are the lowest, her damage boost is useless, Valkyrie has no impact whatsoever, res is slow and unrewarding.
What did you say about consistent heals? Well, I’m sure you know it, but Lucio and Zen have consistent heals too! Except they are offhealers, and not a main healer one of which Mercy is supposed to be!
I’m sorry if that sounds harsh, you happen to be just the person my tolerance ended on, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion, I won’t battle you. You can also say that ‘fun is subjective’ or ‘she’s used in OWL so it’s all good, she’s a good character’. I stay with my point. They broke the character by reverting her to her beta version. Valkyrie will never be balanced, because that’s not the problem. The problem is that her strongest skill - Ressurect - is on E. It’s like if McCree had his Deadeye on E - you press the button and one character just gets deleted. This will never be balanced, unless they revert.
But it’s Blizzard we’re talking about, dirty cashgrabbers and muters of those who aren’t praising them, so what can I say here? I’m just a lowly slav who paid my own money for them and what once used to be a candy in my hands is now mangled jawbreaker, hard to eat and even harder to swallow.
(Gosh, Blizzard is like Russia. Their motto is the same - “And then it got worse”)
Also I’m starting a timer for this post deletion. Knowing how much Blizzard hates criticism, I’m sure they’ll show up here and mute me too.
I understand your frustration and I’m not upset. I’m just trying to make the best of the situation because Blizzard will dig their heels into the ground and do nothing. Would I like mass rez back? Definitely. Will it happen? Probably not. That’s why I’m trying to find a realistic solution.
There is no realistic solution, sadly. Valkyrie will never be good. It took them 13 nerfs to Mercy’s whole kit to make her “not OP” (which she was for a year). Any other buff - and she’ll be “OP” again. Blizzard won’t do that. The only solution is to revert to 1.0 and start from there.
Honestly - that would be good. But Blizzard physically cannot do that because resurrection is stapled into Mercy’s character, for good now. Thanks to the videos. So… No, it won’t go away, sadly. Thus leaving her res on E for eternity.
I’m pretty sure you just hit the nail on the head. Giving her something to do with E would have, by giving her something to do mid fight, insentivised her to not just hide and wait for rez (even tho good ult economy would do just fine to counter this playstyle.) Making her a more prominent member in a fight bringing more to the table(as well as fun) and also bringing more attention to herself.
I don’t think Rez will get removed. Nor do I think Mercy will stay with low winrates forever. Especially since most other supports were buffed recently. Only time will tell.
Again, Blizzard will not revert Mercy. Personally I think they should, but they won’t. That’s why I want to make her healing stronger during her ultimate so it has more impact than it does now.
that’s my motto.
they’ve done more massive reverts before.
Except they are offhealers, and not a main healer one of which Mercy is supposed to be!