[Feedback Thread Continued Part III] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018

no one is forcing anyone to do that. play a different healer.

No bud, sorry, you have a very twisted view towards competitive people and you use the worst kind of players to make your point about egoā€¦ these sym and torb players are exactly what you describe but I wonā€™t delve into that, we disagree fundamentally, thanks for your time

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Iā€™m calling it now. Reddit, Unit Lost, and Your Overwatch will be all over this post Jeff just made about Mercy. They love this kind of drama. Expect videos about his post in the next few days.

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
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I stopped playing Mercy for the reason sheā€™s so boring. Others who want to still play her are better than me lol. I play all other supports these days.

I wonder if they would ever consider a second rework to Mercy, like they did it to Symmetra, is so sad to see a hero stay in a position that it is totally balanced just to be in playable position so that player can play her in a non problematic way without any fun or unique aspects to her. Like please Just make mercy fun, Iā€™m not asking for her to be strong, I just want her to be fun. That is what everyone is asking

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I think I may have been part of why we finally got an official response here, as I quoted his post in a Brigitte thread about Mercyā€™s megathread not getting any feedback.

It would be nice if they could remove the megathread then if they arenā€™t taking onboard anymore feedback at this time.

I think theyā€™re capable but they clearly refuse to do it. Look at Soldier and Roadhog both were overtuned then balanced and are still fun to play. The only way I think to make her fun is a complete rework to her staff. I personally think thatā€™s the main issue. The way it works will never be fun to actually use. (and her ult is trash mostly)

Thank you for replying to our feedback at last, though it feels like it has been a big time sink both for members submitting feedback and for the forum staff to keep making these megathreads and moving Mercy related threads into a megathread.

If youā€™re no longer taking feedback onboard about Mercy and you feel sheā€™s fine then why do we have a megathread claiming youā€™re listening to feedback still? The megathread is redundant if youā€™re happy with Mercy at this time. It would save everyone a lot of time if it was removed please, so we could go back to normal and discuss Mercy with the main forum if we should desire (like other heroes can).

However, Valkyrie isnā€™t what you originally described it as in the patch notes last year. It canā€™t make ā€œbig game-making playsā€ anymore.

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PLEASE REWORK MERCY AGAIN. She is not funny anymore, we still play her because we LOVE HER. MAKE MERCY BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.

This is the reason of the post, we are the community, listen to us.

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That is the only thing which is still fun about her. Want to kill that as well?

Her staff has never been fun. To me at least. If they can figure out an actual fun way for her to heal and dmg boost people that would fix her fun problem.

The problem isnā€™t the staff in itself, the problem is that she has to use her staff in the exact same way when ulting, like it has no depth to it. You right click and keep right clicking when ulting, outside of valk feel the same as inside valk. Valk doesnā€™t make Mercy feel like she is ulting(the voice line revert did help a bit for the first second but the next 14 seconds just feel bland and like you are doing anything different. They could like reduce valk duration to 10 or 8 but increase itā€™s power so she actually feel impactful with like increase healing and damage boost.

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Sure,

i still think shes boringā€¦

does sheneed a change? maybe, maybe not

i just find her ult like a huge ā€œMEHā€

Sheā€™s balanced, but sheā€™s boring. Sheā€™s no longer fun to play as.

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It seems like that you donā€™t really understand her then. If you only pocket other players then itā€™s boring for sureā€¦ and not really a good way to play her.

That because of Mercyā€™s place in the game, her pickrate and winrate can obscure the way people feel about playing her. So those arenā€™t the only metrics that should be considered.

The developers also concern themselves with how a hero feels to play and play against. They have made changes in the past for that reason, regardless of the statistics, because this is a video game and fun should be a factor. They have outright stated that this was a balancing concern.

And if Mercy was as fun to play as her pickrate might suggest, there would not be such a high volume of complaints for such a sustained period of time on the gameā€™s official feedback forum.

It becomes obvious to me then, that at the very least, they should address the actual concerns laid out by people on her enjoyment factor rather than citing pickrates and winrates, which do NOT address the concerns that people have been voicing for months now.

eta: And to ignore those players for months on end, and then make a reply that demonstrates a lack of comprehension of the general concerns surrounding her and makes it seem like you didnā€™t read any of that feedback, feels really bad to those players.

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If I may: my biggest concern is the utility of Valkyrie or ratherā€¦ the feeling of lack of it. No matter if thatā€™s rank play or just quick play, it feels like spectator mode.

Iā€™m really not sure if that my bad timing, or something else, but when my team is in trouble, I canā€™t help them enough with Valkyrie. It feels somewhat useful if Iā€™m using damage boosting, but this of course depends heavily on the rest of the team. In many team fight, heal-chain feels weak (well, itā€™s still the same olā€™ healing, but splited max to 5 beams).

And then a discussion about pro plays and such. And it seems they are using Valkyrie ONLY to secure win fight, and pros advice on res is to be selfish.

It feels kinds weird when main healerā€™s ultimate, whom purpose is most to help the wounded, is increasing the power of weapons :V

I agree though current Valk feels more like it should be an ability and not an ult.

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Pocketing my favorite heroes (ex a Widow, DVa, Junkrat) is the only way I have fun on her otherwise it feels like your just babysitting and watching everyone else have fun. I rarely get any satisfaction playing her. I would just like them to do SOMETHING to fix that awful feeling.

Well, itā€™s clear this game is no longer about fun anymore and I quit. I supported this game because I loved it, competitively and casually but the way the devs have treated us is my real problem.

I hope the devs are reading this, this is not how you treat your customers and community. To ignore them for months and post in different threads, saying you are listening to feedback and then contradicting yourself by saying you donā€™t care because numbers. Ignoring thousands of people for so long just to give this ridiculous ā€œBut her numbers are fiiineā€ bull that we have already adressed.

Iā€™m done, and for those of you Mercy players that stay, I love you all. You kept being respectful and giving input regardless of how you were treated and I seriously respect that. I wish you all the best in the future.

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