I created a new account, and climbed on both dps and tank to diamond in a few days. I was always a believer that you are where you are because of you and your skill. However, not with support. If you get bad placement matches and end up in gold your doomed.
You tell dps to switch off, or tanks they don’t listen and continue to throw, you pile insane healing into your dps that constantly miss. You tell your tanks to push up and actually tank a choke and they backline behind your dps… I genuinely feel for support players out there, how do you keep your sanity?
7 Likes
that’s why zen is one of the best support in low ranks, you can carry games
5 Likes
This is why I was upset with all the brig nerfs, it feels the only way to carry is with dps support, like you said zen, brig etc… I suppose boops if it’s a boop map. It’s sad that support really struggle with being able to carry.
My placement matches I slept 4 high noons and my team just didn’t even push in even when we were up people. I don’t get why anyone who wants to climb would ever play support when you can play zarya or a number of dps and shred 1/2 of the team. At least there you feel like you can do something.
2 Likes
A gold DPS player will slowly fall back to gold.
A plat DPS player may/may not fall if they adapt to the environment.
Being a Diamond tank means you understand when you can/cannot be aggressive…
Same experience to me, but from silver to plat…supp way harder(that’s why in competitive I have more supp time played) than tank and damage to climb there at least for me.
dps baptiste. in low elo he is just a better soldier76. although even healing and securing the frags for the entire team is still not enough for some games, wouldnt be suprised if they filled low elo games with AI.
2 Likes
Not doomed but it is the grind just like with dps or tank. But honestly, why did you buy alt if you dont look for challenge or just play to fun?
1 Like
Not completely doomed if you are support in gold.
1 Like
Easy, we stop being support mains.
2 Likes
Its a lot worse to keep sanity as dps. Constant blame will honestly make you not feel good.
1 Like
I haven’t found being a DPS worse at all.
I play well, I win games, I play badly I lose games. That is like 1000x times better than playing support.
Sure people are nicer to you as a support player, but, as a dps you actually get to influence the games outcome.
3 Likes
You just described playing every role in the game.
Like hell I did.
You can play super well, and lose games trivially as supports.
You can phone it in and win games all the time.
You level of influence on the game is TINY compared to DPSing.
You can’t heal dead.
The person you are heading is one shot or comboed. What can you do? Nothing, you skill is taken totally out of the equasion.
As a DPS you have a lot more impact. I like having impact, so I DPS.
OP is 100% right about supporting.
4 Likes
you’d be suprised how much damage a reddit lucio can do it just takes alot of practice. You will be flamed tho.
2 Likes
No he is wrong. And if he is truly a diamond tank player then he should know he is wrong.
Tank is the most high impact role. Tank is also the biggest throw role.
DPS cannot help bad tanks win as much as supports can enable them to win. He simply has no idea how to play and win as a support.
1 Like
You will be blamed a lot more as dps than support. Even when you actualy played very well, on the other hand, support is often not blamed at all even when playing bad.
And as sleep said, tanks have biggest impact on the match.
2 Likes
The issue is this.
Lets take a pretty common occurrence.
You are healing someone and they get one shot. Widow popped their head clean off.
The widows skill was key to what happened. A change in her aim 100% changes the outcome.
The player you were healings skill 100% was key in what happened. If they were positioned differently, you have a different outcome.
But what about the support?
Were they meant to press the healing button harder or something? It literally didn’t matter what they were doing through that.
Could they have positioned better? no.
Could they have healed better? no.
Do they typically have abilities which changed the outcome? nope.
Like, if they didn’t show up for the fight at all, it didn’t make a difference.
And I am ALL good with that. I am happy to take the blame, given i have a higher level of influence in the games outcome.
Yeah, because ultimately, it doesn’t make THAT much of a big difference.
3 Likes
And you can play super well and lose games due to bad tanks and supports on damage.
You can phone it in and have a tank and/or support carry you to victory.
Nothing new here, just a salty support player trying to blame the other roles for their struggles.
Tank has the most impact. Support the second most. DPS actually has the least impact in an even match.
If all your skill is in healbotting sure. Be proactive and actually support instead of just healing and use your kit offensively.
1 Like
play any support except Mercy.
Triage your team based on their skills.
Heal the performing teammates, make the poor teammates low priority unless you need ult charge. At the same time shooting the enemy as much as possible (focus fire with your team).
Also track enemy ults and tell your team when they are coming.
Also tell your idiot teammates to group up.
2 Likes