Forget pick rates, I don’t care for them
Tell me how Mercy is broken OP
Tell me how she went from being “omg shes just unfun but at least shes balanced” to “omg this hero is OP”
Tell me how Zen isn’t OP if Mercy is
explain how when in game I don’t feel like I’m at a disadvantage when the other team has a Mercy
These forums are clueless, you’ve gotten half the roster nerfed because you were so sick of dive, you made a meta that is much safer for healers, you got more healers introduced that target dive heroes who happen to be the best support killers in game.
Maybe if you didnt get dive deleted and turn Winston into the second lowest winrate hero you’d have something more effective at killing Mercy
we’ve made Hanzo and Widow the better dps picks because they’re harder to get hold of (+ Hanzo buff)
These forums have lost the plot because a popular hero is still popular and useful because shes accessible and can hide behind shields.
Also my most played heroes are Hanzo, then Mccree, then Genji then Ana before you all go calling me some moth main
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For me, it’s the entire rework. Mercy’s Resurrect used to be an ultimate that was situational at best, and required a lot of forethought and planning and strategy to use effectively. But since it could be easily countered if the enemy team was smart and prepared for it, sometimes a Resurrect wouldn’t be effective. Or maybe the team got staggered, lowering the value of Resurrect.
But then they had the genius idea of making Resurrect a cooldown ability, and after 8 or so nerfs, its current state is very valuable. Being able to undo a SINGLE pick every 30 seconds, regardless of what Mercy does, is too valuable to NOT have. It’s not situational like when it was an ult, and it’s what caused Mercy’s pickrate to skyrocket.
Nobody picks her for Valkyrie, they pick her for her strong consistent heals, and her ability to undo a crucial pick every 30 seconds. Maybe not OP, but it’s insanely powerful that NOT picking Mercy when the enemy has puts you at a disadvantage.
Resurrect was balanced when it was a situational Ultimate ability. Mercy will NEVER be balanced as long as Rez is on a cooldown.
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Guy explained it super well. Nice job mate.
Honestly Mercy 1.0 needs to come back with her ‘bunny hop’ ability with GA. Otherwise, there will continuously be whiners about her being a ‘must-pick’.
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I dont really think shes op id like to see her get some ptr love. But maining rein i have to take on every hero and honestly noones op anymore. Some are maybe better than others but hey thats life. I think alot of people just expected an easier game.
Zen isn’t so much OP as he is mandatory to deal with GravDragons, and well suited to keeping Mercy alive.
Mercy can bring back a team mate quickly. No other Support does this (anymore). As an ability, it is ridiculously overpowered. It was fine back when it was an ultimate.
Also there’s nothing worse than getting a well-deserved kill, only to have it be rezzed with the press of a button.
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People keep saying this but I fail to see how it wins a team fight unless the rez was mid team fight which is super risky and is rewarded
I wonder if the value of rez is so high now because half the dps heroes have been wiped off the face of the earth and it’s way easier to get a rez off because we created a meta where no one can pressure mercy unless they’re Hanzo hitting her in the head.
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At the end of the day, an ability shouldn’t be just as effective as an ultimate. I don’t think you realise how much value you can get from bringing back a team mate quickly, especially mid-fight. She just makes Ana and Moira borderline pointless to play, that’s my main problem with her.
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Rez most of the time is not significant enough to turn a teamfight.
Mercy is OP because she is the only main healer who can heal through barriers - has great mobility - a damage amp that will increase the damage of anything - everything previously mentioned being unstoppable unless hit by CC, Ana anti or death. (+ can heal/amp behind corners/walls for short durations)
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she’s not OP. the only people complaining about her are non-mercy support mains that are mad their faves haven’t been viable in years.
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She has more utility and more average healing done per game than the other main healers. Ana does need changes tho too. but you can’t have both!
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Ana is borderline useless to play because shes her skill cap is so damn high most people can’t play her to the degree that they need too + her kit is super super unforgiving
Moira is weak because by the time people can aim the value of killing other people becomes redundant because she gets killed in 1v1s, Moira is strong in lower ranks then goes down as you climb ranks
Lets get this straight, Mercys barely kill anyone - other healers do. You might bring back someone from the dead but there is a good chance the other healers can make someone die. It breaks even. It’s weird how everyone forgets this.
“oh but she can damage boost” - get real, this is only a high end issue, check overbuff for overall mercy stats in comp and she grants a whopping 750 damage amped per game overall.
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She is the only main healer than can heal without having to worry about of stopping i.e. her heals are consistent and on top of this she can also heal with no downsides, Ana needs to worry about reloading, dealing with flankers and keeping track of her cooldowns and Moira has to worry about resource management and knowing when to use fade so that she is not killed instantly by flankers afterwards. Mercy has GA on a 1 second cooldown and also has regen after 1 sec of no dmg.
Basically she is very forgiving and therefore much better than the rest of the main healers and this is without talking about her ultimate and rez.
I can already see everyone coming in and saying “Buff Ana and Moira then” and no thats not how you balance, Ana can use buffs but Moira is fine and if we buffed heroes to match the power level of an OP hero we would power creep and this is something that should be avoided at all costs. It is much easier to nerf Mercy and makes much more sense as she is the outlier here not other heroes
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Using “other characters can kill so rez is balanced” as an excuse is completely stupid. When you kill a hero you give up CDs and occasionally come close to death to the point where someone else in the enemy team finishes you off.
In comes Mercy with her rez, she rezes the player that your team killed and since you ended up dying because of another person or had low health due to the fight you were just in you end up in a disadvantage unless you have a mercy of your own.
This makes it so that both teams need a Mercy for the rez, consistent heals and regen.
I disagree
These forums have been too hell bent on getting everything nerfed into oblivion we now reap what all the cry babies have sowed
You want Mercys do be less effective? more than likely shouldnt have made winston have the second lowest win rate in the game after you got the comp that kept him alive ruined
What does this mean? Why are you judging how good a Support is based on if they can “kill anything”? That’s just not true.
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No ammo required for her primary
Can heal through walls and shields
Can undo picks
Near un-killable team wide heal and damage buff ultimate
Regular damage buff to turn all DPS into 2 shotting machines
No one else brings this value that doesn’t deserve a nerf too.
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