Massive armor values about 50% of her health, DM being the best defensive ability in game, one of the highest TTKs in the entire tank roster, one of the only 2 reliable options tanks have for flying heros, infinite ammo shotguns (which still bullies tanks), high mobility, never has to reload, a 2nd life mechanic, a team wiping ultimate that ruins the tempo of any fight.
Why is Dva fine right now after recieving nothing but buffs for multiple patches and while she was still performing better then half the tank roster already before this mid season patch?
Huge hitbox, easy to hit crit box that results in body shots if you miss, close range damage only, canāt do anything to mitigate beam damage, ult is pretty mediocre
I mean I donāt see Hog stopping beams anytime soon.
Orisa has to just eat it.
Rein wants nothing to do with beams as well.
Sym is a big counter to Ball, Mei slow sucks to be honest.
Doomfist block does nothing against beams.
Mei and Sym can both counter Mauga.
Like see what Iām getting at here.
Beam heros being annoying is not exclusive to Dva. You know how she deals with beam heros? By taking advantage of their horrible TTK and beating them on that timer with her own burst.
Chances are the Dva is a whole lot easier to pocket because the downside of being ābigā is not a downside to a support teammate.l Thatās a positive for half the support roster.
If I gotta stop and sustain my squishy dps to let them deal their super slow TTK damage on a Dva, wellā¦my other tanks open, theyāre just as big as Dva.
I present as evidence that this is maybe, maybe, the 2nd thread saying DVa is broken Iāve ever seen here. If sheās broken, itās seriously stealth broken.
Emmogg has a bias with Dva since he plays her a lot.
Metro doesnāt like Dva, makes sense because he plays a ton of hitscan, recently been playing a ton of Sym to huge success. Honestly needs to get over himself at this point.
Rein, Sigma, Winston, Ramattra, and Zarya can all just block them. Roadhog, Junker Queen, and Mauga can heal despite them. Hammond and Doomfist can easily evade them as they do anything else.
D.va is the only character that just has to tank the damage with her health bar and nothing else, with evading them being not quite so viable given how she moves around and how her damage works.
TTKs matter. Being in beam range also means theyāre in Dvaās effective range now. Chances are Dva is not alone. Mei and Sym canāt even chase her.
Do you also believe that a Bastion is gonna counter Winston every game? Nah bro I bait him and eat his armor then leave him to his own demise as a Winston.
Because she wasnāt. Youāre rewriting history. Before this mid-season patch she was one of the worst tanks. Sheās now good but not overpowered. Winston and Sigma are both better than her, so is Zarya. Just look at the top 500. Notice how little D.Va?
Her head hitbox in mech is the size of TON 618 (the universeās largest currently known black hole) and there are a million things that can counter her.
Hitscan and anyone with projectiles may have a hard time but do you know how many characters donāt rely on those? A lot. Reinhard, Winston, Symettra, Moira, Brigitte, Mei, Zaryaā¦ sheās the easiest tank by far to counter.
Interestingly I donāt see much Zarya. Are you sure weāre looking at the same T500 leaderboards? Not to mention she got nerfed (quite significantly!)
With that being saidā¦ as I mentioned in the other threadā¦ I donāt think itās accurate rn as thereās too much data from before mid season.
By that I mean if you put Zarya head to head with D.Va, Zarya wins. Zarya isnāt OP and isnāt as represented as Sigma or Winston. But sheās still better than D.Va even on D.Va maps right now.
Itās actually had enough time at this point to adjust. It only takes about a week for those leaderboards to shift.
Better than d.va on dva maps? Are you saying zarya is better than d.va on numbani, gibraltarā¦
Zarya really isnāt that good right now, this happened last time back in season 1 if you can remember, everyone thought 1s extra second to bubble CD and shorter duration was nothing in season 1 and thought she was still OP, then she ended up being trash tier in s2 with something like a ridiculous 41% winrate and needed like 5 buffs to be good again.
Not saying zarya is trash tier like season 2 since she kept some of the duration and kept some of her previous buffsā¦ But I think people underestimated the nerfs. I would say sheās B tier for ladder, even lower for high ranked play because she really needs a soft rework at this point to be viable at high rank without being OP in lower ranks.
I dunno, season 11 came out June 20. Mid season patch came out July 9th. That period was 19 days without powerful d.va. Itās been about 13 days weāve had the mid season patch. Keep in mind also zarya was OP for about 3 of those days too which puts d.va lower, so probably just over a week of actual overtuned d.va. Iād wait a bit more time before we start analyzing leaderboards.
For any old patch, Iād agree with you. But this patch was absolutely massive. It needs more time. Although I really donāt see d.va avoiding the nerf hammer next patch, based on higher ranked games Iāve seen d.va absolutely dominating.
Currently if you pick D.Va theyāll go Zarya Sym. Then youāll have to swap Winston. Then theyāll mirror. You might as well save the time and start on Winston on those maps.
That is more than enough time to shift the top 500. It truly is. No additional time is necessary.
I donāt think sheāll get nerfed. If anything they might revert DM to 3 seconds. But I think that the D.Va haters are going to be very disappointed.
, I agree with him on the whole 6v6 or 5v5 thing, but he doesnāt half make it hard to do so.