So…
firstly shield tanks are now useless after the recent nerf to shields and the increased damage output of 3 dps. May as well not have a shield.
second, the off tank changes just seem silly, it’s an obvious force to try make them actual tanks instead of really just bulky dps (which is what they really are)
Just give every tank a shield already.
thirdly playing with 3 dps (usually the most inept and incompetent players) is terrible. They often have no idea what they are doing and normally it takes the rest of the team to keep them in line and grouped up, but when they are the majority they just go full tard and solo.
fourthly healing is simply insufficient for 3 dps firing on a tank and increases the random instant head shot chances for everyone not a tank (this wouldn’t be a problem if the game had any kind of real accuracy but years on we still get shot through walls and hit by bullets/arrows from meters away as the game tries to compensate for lag ect and of course don’t forget the tree trunk size arrows ect)
Overall the changes result in more 1 sided battles, 1 side gets lucky and steam rolls quickly. 2/2/2 is still vastly superior at this time.
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Some more freedback:
Supports feel weird. Sometimes strong sometimes not. They just seem to struggle.
Brig getting better self heal, Ana having lingering healing overtime like Moira is what immediately hops to mind when i think how this can be fixed. But those are just tiny ideas.
Overall I think the supports would need to be retooled to be able to help about others quickly, because as the heros stand right now, we have the one that pockets the two tanks and then the AOE healer. Neither of which fit the new 132 playstyle well.
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It’s not a good way to test tbh, it’s full of feeders from different ranks not even trying.
The games people played serious were very enjoyable for me.
Overall, I’m pleasantly surprised. 1/3/2 definitely fixes queue times (at least as far as I’ve experienced) while being okay enough with its current balance.
The worst part has been constant leavers but what are you gonna do…
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oh right? Try to play tanks and see how that feels
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I am a tank player as well, and i could not agree with you more. Like i said in my post, this change makes tank players’lives very hard, and more importantly, it significantly restrict the possibilities of tactics for tank players regarding teamwork.
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The 1-3-2 is just making life harder for the people who are already feel oppressed by blizzard which is the supports and especially the tanks. This game mode is just making it so hard for tanks and allows people who aren’t good as dps against people who are good a dps way more common therefore making it hard for teams to succeed. I know I’m in plat which means I’m not important but it makes climbing that much harder. It is just making life more difficult for the people who are already treated unfairly by blizzard and if this game mode stays as the actual game mode it will just confirm that all Jeff really cares about is his precious dps and the toxic people who will only play that type of character. Please make the right decision and don’t make 1-3-2 a constant because it is sooooo bad.
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That is a good idea I could see that working and be willing to play that! Really good Idea!!!
I want to know what server u are on
As support it feels completely underwhelming. No protection coz only 1 tank for multiple supports (i.e. Ana, Zenyatta) means they will be out in the open. It also forces the tank to stick to the backline AT ALL TIMES, making dive tanks like Winston, D.va and Wrecking Ball not viable.
A single buff in the mode for the tank doesn’t change that and supports are left hanging to dry.
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Sombra’s like “YO I’M RELEVANT!” right now…lolol
Hard counters tf out of the solo tank in a lot of situations preventing them for protecting their team.
Certain ults, hard denied at higher elos thanks to well timed zarya’s bubbles instantly denying everything.
I can see how ppl find this fun.
It’s ARCADE level fun, not base game fun. This is a poop show for QP and Comp, put this in arcade.
That is all.
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As a support you gotta deal with 3 dps threats and you got 1 less tank for it in return. Zenyatta and Ana especially are a no-go in this mode and any dive tank is too, coz it will mean no protection for supports.
If the sole reason is to lower QP-queue, then by destroying a meta that has been balanced around 2-2-2 and replacing it with 1-3-2 is just dumb. There will be a lot of changes required to make this CLOSE to viable for all the roles.
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After playing 20-30 matches I don’t feel strongly for 3/2/1 or 2/2/2 so whatever goes I’m ok with… I will miss the fast DPS queue times tho.
Even if 3/2/1 is not well received and not the right path the experimental mode has been a major success and I enjoy it being part of the game and a way for us to directly experience potential changes to the game.
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solo tank kills the way i enjoy playing. if this goes through i wont be playing tank in comp again
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Please for the love of god actually listen to your community for once
As a tank player, no matter how much they change tanks having only one tank is just not going to be enjoyable. It will be the similar to getting a ball in a match with how they are hard to work for a push. It also makes a shield tank or ball dive the only real working comp because of high lethality characters like widow when there is no barrier.
Overall I understand the desire to add it, but the problem with long dps Q times and things like that is not the amount of dps slots, its a core part of how tank/support is not as enjoyable as dps for most tanks.
Also for off tanks to be changed to main tanks a core part of their character will need to be changed not just health, and tweaking or adding an ability.
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I have tried several matches with this experimental mode and I can confidently say that I HATE it! As a tank main, 1-3-2 is awful. Support has a hard time keeping up, and tanks feel like an after thought. Not to mention it’s tanks that have the 10 min+ role queue. This was just an over correction from the days of goats, to lesson the role of a tank as well as to keep the overwhelming dps mains happy. If this ever went live, I would not play overwatch anymore. I love my tanking role, and lately with the past few patches, blizzard is making that role less and less fun.
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can i hit roadhogs juul bro
So yeah IF they had to do something, between getting rid of role lock or going into 1/3/2, I will definitely take 1/3/2.
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That’s the thing, you got it right, this causes so many problems, even more than 2-2-2 or unrestricted queue I’d dare to say, but I won’t mind it to have it on arcade rotation
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