Roaghog is nerfed into the ground except his hook cool down. Why? How is this meant to be fun? What am I missing?
It’s pretty bad.
But flats hates hog so, it makes sense lol
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He’s better and more efficient at killing squishies.
I completely agree with him (and even samito thinks the same lol…) that roadhog is far too tanky and selfish to get away with the kinds of things he can. Hp -100 and Vape -50 hp is compensated by hook buffs.
Pretty much, what makes hog fun to play is better while what isn’t fun to play against him is toned down. Makes him much more like a dps than a tank that’s also a dps.
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Nah. I have like 500 hours on hog, the hook change is nice, but the rest is pretty damn bad. Hog gets melted like no other on this card.
Giga hog meta was some of the most fun (and weirdly dynamic lol) Overwatch I’ve ever saw on console. Weird stuff worked on top whatever normal stuff. It was awesome. Hog is the scapegoat amongst high level players yet he’s almost always trash lol
I respectfully disagree.
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Hog enforces solid positioning and rewards players with good aim
You don’t only need your hook if you’re good enough and the nerf to 5 dmg per pellet literally ruins that and makes him a hookbot
This. It doesn’t feel good.
Zarya feels good lol
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Zarya in this experimental is some of the most broken stuff I have seen in ages
It’s for fun but MAN she was in every game shredding everyone
6 second cooldown hook means much higher stun uptime too. There’s buffs here for sure.
I can’t think of many people who’d say they enjoy shooting roadhog while he uses take a breather. 50% damage reduction is a lot and 600 HP on top of that makes for a lot of HP to chew through.
It’s not healthy as if you don’t pressure him, he’ll get another take a breather and the cycle continues until you have enough focus on him that he can die. One person alone is rarely enough on any role to solo kill a hog. I’m not saying it should be easy, but it definitely shouldn’t be as maddeningly difficult as it can be sometimes.
People generally play hog for kills, not his tanking potential. He’s better at doing so with this while being far less of a pain to deal with.
Now I’m not saying any of the changes are intended for the live game. As far as I know, they’re all meant for overwatch 2 or they very well could be for live, maybe both. Either way, hogs kit as it stands is problematic and will no doubt change to some degree. Better he stay more a dps or more a tank?
Completely agree. 5 damage sounds awfully low. Maybe have split damage between the close range shot and the alt fire? Alt could do more? I dunno but I definitely think 5 is too little for spacing out enemies.
You are definitely overstating how hard it is to kill a hog
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Flats openly hates Roadhog. He made the patch so he thought it would be funny to nerf Roadhog.
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It’s because Reinhardt mains want rein-Zarya meta to thrive.
No, at least not really. Hog is definitely difficult to kill, especially a good one that knows when best to use hook. He’s strong on an individual basis, independent.
I think what flats is trying to get across is a need for some of his power to shift from sheer tankiness to dps capability through hook. Hog needs damage outside of just hook though so the changes are flawed in that regard.
Don’t know what that guy was thinking or why he was even asked, the Hog changes are terrible.
I actually think just buffing his damage does it for me. By just deleting people that is my contribution. I’m willing to lose some hp for that trade.
People complain endlessly about his kit yet~~
- Chain cc wrecks him more then any other hero in the game. news flash: there’s TONS OF IT
- Team work of literally any sort dunks all over him.
- Baiting out hook, hog is very very dead. Breather hp or not
This whole ExC is garbage, so I wouldn’t stress over it
Big facts lol. I would like the hook change cool down though
All of this is considering what hog would need on live 6v6 vs 5v5
Ow2 Hog would probably be quite a bit stronger than these changes (I believe intended for live game?)
Because Flats buffed tanks he likes and nerfed the others he hates.
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All tanks are relatively hard to kill though, that’s the point
Oh for sure. Hog can also be destroyed easy. Ana nade as he goes for heal and he’s done for.
I think he gets too much value on both ends. Press this button and you’re hard to kill. Press this button and you pull the enemy in and kill them. All I’m saying is the value you can get from hog is so straight forward that his kit in general should be smoothed out. As to how exactly I have not clue lol