Everyone needs to learn Moira

The more people think she is “no skill” the more they will get out of learning to play her.

When I am helping someone and they are complaining they don’t have the mechanical skills to climb, and I throw them on Moira - usually they are like “why put me on a no skill hero, if I am having issues with aiming”

And they usually land under the SR they have on DPS and get stuck there.

I’m like, well obviously it isn’t aim which is holding you back here, so what is it? It is obviously some important skills you are missing here right? Usually they get the hint that there much more than aim as a basic skill set, and that aim isn’t even their biggest problem.

If people think that aim is the one true skill, I invite them to learn to play Moira, and when they find they hit their SR limit on her, and can’t climb, then it should start bringing the skills they are not good at into focus.

Mercy is too hit and miss for it, but Moira… Moira NEVER disappoints.

She brings into sharp focus your actual missing skills in the game, not the ones you think you have.

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And not surprisingly, Moira and Lucio are gonna be the top 2 Supports so far in OW2.

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I’m not sure about that, at least I’m no longer sure. Ana made a surprisingly good showing in OWL, so I’m more willing to wait to see how things land.

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Ana is definitely better than moira lmfao

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Kinda hard to beat “this character has active self healing, good evasion, and decent dueling” in a context where Supports are lacking in fun, and dying too much to flankers.

Moira will disappoint once she’s played in OWL, the balancing team will come for her soon enough. I bet it will take them 3 weeks to “adjust” her strength.

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Better, yes. But she mostly requires teammates who know how to peel.

Which is something they doesn’t really exist for more than half the healer players across all ELOs.

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I’m not saying Moira isn’t fun is OW2, I’m just no longer sure she one of the top 2 supports. At least in the high ranks.

Hence why lucio is so meta. The guy has speed and a boop on a 4 second cooldown.

Moira is bad. She is also bad in OW1
Idk from where you are even getting this.

But I’m not really talking about meta.

I’m talking about Support queue times across all ELOs.

Only if she does crazy well in OWL, and I’m not sure that is going to happen. Currently the teams seem to be avoiding her.

Oh in other news… You know which hero had the highest win rate in OWL for ages? Bastion.

He was played once, and they won when he was on the field. So he had a 100% win rate in OWL for like a super long time.

Sure it was one game, but I used to laugh every time I sorted heroes by OWL win rate.

I’m convinced that the balancing team will do everything to keep only a small portion of heroes viable for OWL. She only needs to appear once and that’s a sign of strength. Ana needs to appear in 100% of matches to be considered slightly overtuned.

DON’T GIVE THEM IDEAS!

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Ok well one there is no ELOs, it’s a beta with just quick play. And as far I’ve seen, ain’t nothin for MMR cause i’ve seen way too many skill ranges.

But if that’s what we’re doing, if ana’s team is going to be low elo and unable to peel, then using the same skill range. The enemy team will barely be able to comm to even coordinate a dive on the ana and the DPS flankers wouldn’t be good enough to get ana in the first place. Not a lot at least.

They are not usually that crazy. Overwatch outside very few heroes is surprisingly well balanced for OWL play.

Like they actually do a pretty good job there.

OH SUCH IDEAS I WILL GIVE THEM!

She’s a free ride up to diamond so I don’t see how that’s bad when most the player base is below that. She’s great for learning game sense

Half? Hahaha.

Which is so insanely frustrating.

Not because he’s meta, but because he, the support who can help peel and kinda fill some of the niches an off tank does, rarely does on the ladder. They just Reddit Lucio or speedbot Brawl.

I’d argue queue times is a mandatory issue that needs fixing.

And that they can’t just handwave it away as not being a problem because it doesn’t affect the top 10% of players as much.

Only for people with other heroes in Diamond already.

This is the thing, I’ve not seen anyone get a lot higher in SR than they have on other heroes with her, and mostly people land quite a lot lower than the SR on their other heroes.

She is good at getting to your rank in support, if you are already good at the skills on other heroes to do so.

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Or you can go the route of running zen with ana and just literally demolish everyone through pure damage. Though the zen player has to be able to land shots for that too work.

Queue times will NEVER be fixed. There will always be a role that is faster than others, and there will always be the role that takes a long asf time to get into a game with. This will always be a thing idk why we think it’s something that will just be gone with changes.