Shame she is extremely easy to counter.
If it works on Phara it works 100x better on Echo.
I think she doesn’t have as big an impact as i thought she would, at least down in bronze. But she is another shield breaker and even less reason to choose Orisa especially with her paper-thin shield. Every time it goes up those sticky bombs hit it (they can’t miss) and it is gone in under a second. Orisa is more broken now than she was before Echo, and that was pretty broken already.
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Unfortunately her hitbox is tiny and her effectiveness long-range is high so soldier and the like are not very good against her. In bronze everyone except perhaps Widow is going to have a really hard time bringing her down. I’m an ok aim with soldier and I was struggling when she was distant because of the small hitbox - it seems much smaller than Pharah.
She’s not great at long range. I’ve been playing echo all day and outside of midrange (where soldier and ashe are at their strongest), it’s hard to reliably land any real damage.
I think hard-counters is a bit exaggerated. He needs her to come into his short effective range and a decent Echo simply won’t. He can discourage her with his right-click but at the range she can remain effective it will have little impact. He would counter a bad echo for sure.
She should also keep the % of health that she had when she starts ulting so she doesn’t ult to save herself and then she is Hog with full health. It is a big middle finger to all those heroes that ult and die a lot - hog, sigma, mcree, etc. - that she gets full health and she CANNOT DIE while ulting. If an Echo chooses a character like Hog then the consequences should be the same as they are for Hog ulting - which means dying most of the time! Otherwise those ults need to be fixed for the real heroes so they don’t die so often (talking bronze here, not high ranks where healers know to cover them while ulting). Specific to ulting as hog, Echo only does a take-a-breather and she has whole-hog - that’s just stupid.
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She was made for OWL, specifically OWL viewership.
Look at how giddy that little Papa dude got when he mentioned Echo being in OWL and he couldn’t wait to see how she was going to be played in OWL.
The rest of the playerbase is second priority to their precious esports, sorry.
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Should have been a support
//thread
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Pretty neato to play but a nightmare to play against as a support/shield tank because there’s nothing you can do against her, and if your DPS ain’t dealing with her then you just die.
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Pharah and Echo are two completely different DPS
just because they fly doesn’t make them the same
No she doesn’t. I played a lot of pharah today and been destroying echoes and teams as long as there isn’t a hitscan. The damage pharah puts out is way more and more consistent. She doesn’t rely on abilties for damage so can keep slamming 120 damage. She’s also way better at staying in the air
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I hate the visual clutter that Echo causes, too. There’s. So. Much.
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Blizzard: Balances ults on the strength of the kit it’s attached to. So Ultimates aren’t as frequent.
Also Blizzard: Lets release a hero who’s ult is to copy a hero on the enemy team with 650% increased charged rate 
Hammer Down!
Hammer Down!
HAMMER DOWN!
Tbf Baptiste got his own event shortly after and a mini story. Sigma got nothing though 
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This character is stupidly overpowered. Get her out of this game.
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Honestly if she keeps her current ability set I’d just take her flight away period. Make it instead propel her forward 1-2 meters above ground level, horizontal movement.
Or keep her flight but remove the sticky bombs entirely.
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This particular ult spam is really the biggest problem with her: Reinhardt was already the central play-mover in this game, around whom the rest of the game aligns and centers.
You now have 2 Reins. One who can double~triple ult. Good luck. It won’t help you, but good luck anyways.
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- She’s awful to play with controller. Too much going on.
Wait… What?
You weren’t aware of this?
I haven’t played since she went live literally yesterday 
essential working and raid day
It’s also the value that brings is insane.
Since Echo can’t copy herself she kinda indirectly forces a mirror match, so there’s one less target she can’t copy. While other characters can be counter picked without normal swapping onto said character (there’s exceptions every now and again) Echo throws that imbalance out of whack as now you have to think “If she copies my character, how badly can she screw over my team with my own kit?”
Yup she’s available in comp.
I have no clue why either
All you have to do is a bit rebinding, but that’s nothing new.