Been playing support well (not dying, getting picks, topping team mates, using mic to communicate), but just cannot carry bad dps or tanks…even if i win games, there are always games I cannot do anything about (poor dps, bad tank positioning, leavers, etc). These games get peppered into my win streak and keeps me in bronze. Cant get out of bronze 1 hell…
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Incoming people telling you this is where you belong or that you should group up
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used to be gold for support at the end of OW1. Then OW2 was placed in bronze hell…
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Well the average went from gold to bronze due to the influx of new players. Whats your win lose rate
I kinda wanna just stop the game. This matchmaking and ranking is 100% bs as a support. last games i get even more kills then my dps mates and as a ‘reward’ i get a derank…
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It’s the other way around for me. I was hardstuck in bronze in OW1 and I climbed last season on support from bronze, to gold.
Don’t play support like a healer who can dps. Play Support like DPS who can also heal.
That’s a good point for low ranked games. You can’t sit back and heal people who wont LOS or use mitigation or position properly. How many tanks at gold or below even know what their armor does? Not even two healers spamming heals into a bad tank will keep them alive.
It feels weird, though. A healer that wants to play as a healer might succeed at higher ranks but to get there you have to be a dps/healer hybrid?
I’d be curious what a very high rated support player would think about starting from scratch and climbing through the low ranks.
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that’s not how you play support lol
It kind of is. When you’re not healing, might as well do damage and look for picks and openings.
It 100% is how you play when in low ranks
Bronze hell isn’t a thing, other than bronze being frustrating. You should at least be able to carry 5% of games and get that positive win rate. Work on mechanics and game awareness.
Easy to say when you are not in it. you know that 5% isn’t a positive win rate? Also you can’t carry 2 bad dps. The problem here is also, the more you carry the ‘worse’ your team mates will be, because mmr is not meant to be at a high winrate. And dont use an argument that a top500 or diamond dps/tank can have a high winrate in bronce.
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A bug with old OW1 account make you stuck in a low rank.
No need to wait for a correction that will never come, the advice given each time is to start all over again with a new account.
Check out this post I made which blew up, talks alot about bronze and some issue which might pertain to you. Are you asking yourself “Who can I heal to get the most value”? If you have a replay code you want me to check out I’d be happy to give feedback.
Did you fall down a flight of stairs and get a concussion before coming up with this masterpiece
I’m stuck here too. Everyone plays so poorly.
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This is what any higher ranked player would do. Because it is easier to punish the morons on the other team than help the morons on yours.
But that is also the problem, you need to be higher ranked to actually know what you’re doing and who to focus etc. and have the mechanics to make it work with flanks and winning duels as support.
So for your average bronze player who belongs there they would probably be better off just playing like a normal support mostly focused on healing. Something you need to know how to do in higher ranks anyway so you might as well learn to do it properly while you’re in bronze.
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What a baffling post, I can’t stand what a poor job OW does at teaching players the game. There are no “healers” at high ranks that succeed while healbotting, there are no pure healers in this game, they are supports. Good healbots usually have a bad 55% winrate and hardstuck in high plat, same as it was in OW1.
All supports except for mercy are dps/healer hybrids as you call them. DPS pressure from supports always does way more towards winning than healing, even if you aren’t killing them, it makes them back off to get healed or use cds instead of doing damage to your team and building their ult, which in turn makes your team need less healing. This is absolutely crucial on heroes like ana or bap to climb quickly, along with not wasting your own cds and using majority of your nades on ana offensively and well-timed.
The problem that OW has always created for hard-stuck players is you learn the game and how to play it from your teammates and opponents, when you’re in low rank you learn everything wrong and then think that’s how the game is played and try to refine all those bad habits and biases until you can’t see past that playstyle and game understanding.
That’s the one good thing about the current matchmaking system; mixing ranks all over the place, it gives lower rank players a taste/get to see how to play properly when there’s a standout hard carry that’s much higher rank to play against. Imagine if you were a gold player and every single game you played was all mid diamond+ players only on both teams, you would f’ing learn proper positioning, high tier movement etc… it would force you to learn and copy your opponents or you would just be dead in spawn all game and quit.
Eh this is probably where you belong tbh. I just started support on this account and went to plat 1 in two weekends from rankings placement with just ana. I’m hoping to get masters next weekend.
I don’t group up and rarely use comms since no one is in comms under masters anyway
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Lmao its ez to get out of bronze