ELO HELL exist more now than ever before

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Before people troll and comment the obvious recycled toxicity, allow me to preface this post with some information.

I use to own 3 accounts because role queue wasn’t always a thing and I wanted to keep my ranks separate for each role:

  • The account I currently have that I started with which has a 90% completion for cosmetics on but unfortunately has always been Silver Rank.
  • A Gold ranked DPS Only Account
  • And a Plat Support Account.
    But with Role Queue and Overwatch now free to play I no longer even login to the other 2 accounts that have no cosmetics because unfortunately my skins mean more to me than my rank apparently.

So I made my biggest regret to date… I kept my first account, a Mid-Silver peaked account with my skins and deleted my other 2 Blizzard accounts.

Let me tell you about the experience. For starters I had abandoned this account after Dva got her massive reworks and never adjusted to the change… Which is great today because I’m still in Devil Dva mode, but horrible for the 2 or 3 seasons where I fed my brains out.

Fast forward to OW2 and having deleted my Competitive Accounts; I said to myself "Pifff I’m a Gold/Plat this will be a fun Smurf to climb out of for a season (6 months later) or 4…
The new rank system was supposed to be progressive and much easier for you to climb the ladder … And where that is very true for normal users … Bronze and Silver players are far from normal users…
Literally half of them will understand basic things and just choose to completely disregard things believing they can hard carry 1v5.
In Bronze and Silver the understanding isn’t “Get a pick and push.” It’s “Poke until we blow all of our Ults and get no where and scream at the Ana for not Nano boosting the Dva Bomb.”

We were given the ping system and even with the visual and audio queue to fallback or group up people will feed like … No actually not at all like bots because even vs AI group up …

And let’s talk about the hair brained ideas these guys have… Telling Dva to leave the Frontline and dive the Ash because the DPS can’t do their job and leave the Supports and poopoo DPS to be eaten alive by a roid raged pony with a freaking Javelin… All because “Dive means you dive on to snipers Dva” (Uhhh what?)
In Bronze and Silver there are people who believe that Winston counters Reaper and Pharah counters Soldier because it worked 1 time in the 6 years they have played badly.

And no matter how much you call out, no matter how much you ask nicely, no matter how much you are right about positioning, target priority, counter picks, or just game sense in general, no one is going to read chat and no one is ever in voice.

Meanwhile every single evening that I play comp I think to myself “Gee this is so much fun to finally not have to heavily rely on everyone else and I feel like my rank reflects my impact!” While looking at my rank after climbing for 3 days to Gold 1 to be promoted back to Silver 5 for the 8th time in a row. If that isn’t the literal definition of ELO HELL then IDK what is …

And don’t get me wrong! I’m damn sure no Plat 1 player… I have only ever peaked at Plat… But I damn sure don’t deserve hard throwing, super buffet feeding, backwards thinking bots keeping me down in the 7th gate of Hell… Meanwhile being matched against an entire team of Gold players who DO PLAY HALF WELL… Every game… Me and Bronze players against Gold players…

So much fun to be steam rolled and promoted from Gold 1 to Silver 5.

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If only there was a way to identify “game sense” as a statistic.

It would be much easier to identify and accurately match players better, if ranks were determined that way.

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Or maybe just better matchmaking in general… I am not even exaggerating when I say that

A. My team is always Silver and the Enemy team is always Gold rank
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B. I have climbed to Gold 1 to be promoted to Silver 5 8 times.

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I found on tank its much easier to carry if your team can just barely carry themselves.

On support you’re at the mercy of your teams contribution.

Im a support main and solo queing support gives me anxiety. I know i will tilt.

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I crawled my way out of bronze support into barely plat 5 at my peak but then plateaued, went down, and now can’t get past gold 2. I had to pretty much just DPS my way out of bronze/silver with Zen. Healing didn’t get me anywhere, you gotta play a whole different game down there lol

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Normally I dont play comp but QP has been so bad, I made the switch hoping I would at least get better teammates. What confuses me is the ranking system in general. I ranked my tank to like SIlver 3 and it said “You are higher than 99% of the people in this tier”…then why not put me higher up?

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Yeah i dont get that either. I assume its an indication to how far within that division you are up against others in that division.

Showing how close you are to the carrot.

Im finding tank grind weird.
Im diamond supp playing against masters and gm.

But my tank is hard stuck gold on a positive winrate, getting average 20+ elims (60 highest i think) and play of the game 3 out of the 5 wins…

Rank reveal…same. didnt go up or down.

Doesnt make sense to me.
I am genuinely ruining the games for the enemy teams and i apologize saying its blizzard that wont get me out of the rank.

Im not sure what i need to do having met the expected conditions and more.

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This is the way.

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If you’re a gold player, you will climb back. Did you get a bad loss streak? That happened to me and I dropped an entire rank in season 2!

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I carried my friend on his support Ana one trick from Bronze 5 to Plat 1 in a week as a duo with my smurf also starting Bronze, now Plat 1. He was stuck in Bronze 5/4 for about 2 seasons. I am a high plat average/ low diamond peak DPS on my main.

Seems to me like there is a breakpoint at being able to smurf lower ranks. You might be higher skilled/rank naturally, but are still not good enough to carry the games.

Technically, this IS elo hell… BUT realistically, it is just a skill issue.

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Play bap and DPS the whole time.

There’s no reason to try and work with teammates when you get more value from playing selfishly.

Even when I smurf on a low GM account I still dps bap because I know that I can DPS diff their dps and don’t need to rely on them to do anything.

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Started as silver 3 as support, after my 50 QP, in 2 days I was down in Bronze 5, with stats like 3w vs 15 loss, hardstuck for 7 weeks.
I admit my stats weren’t the best at the beginning, but as an Illari main I am now never below 40% accuracy on both primary or secondary fire, always positive eliminations/assists vs deaths.
After 7 weeks I climbed back to silver 5, with like 40 wins vs 7 losses.

And then all of the sudden I started getting really bad players in my teams. Yes, you shouldn’t blame teammates, but with dpses with 0-0-8 after 1 round, and 1-0-15 after 2 rounds (a bastion player), soldier players with less than 4k dmg, and this is every game I play, I have at least 1 completely useless dps everygame, and 2 of 5 games I have 2 useless dpses.
I have had multiple useless Anas with around 3k heal overall, and less than 1.5k dmg.
So from 40w-7loss, I went 3w-15loss in an instant, and now bronze 2, with the spiral saying soon bronze 3-4, (2w-5loss atm).

I am often on par or higher in dmg done as with the other 2 dpses, and 4 of 5 me and the tank has most eliminations done, and I am still 3 of 5 the support with most healing done as well.

I made a second account just to see, got platinum 4 immediately, and got no problems holding my ground there. This matchmaking system is beyond broken, I have the skill of a mid plat player as proven by my second account, and is now on my way down to bronze 3-4 on my first account.
So the thesis be better then your rank and you’ll rank up is just bullsh*t! At least as support, I can’t carry my groups more than I already do, and we still get overthrown easily.

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All you’d have to do is have a counter for how often someone stayed on the high ground.