this right here. I salute you friend
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I agree! The matches always flow and alter to the plays made by dps! And it always seem that other roles plays and decision make little impact unless it’s helping the dps out.
Situations are self explainatory etc pharah when she’s just mowing your team down and what could you do as a support or tank?
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This is what bothers me. If you want a constructive post: there’s hundreds and hundreds. They literally all over the forum: even if the team agrees with it or not.
But when there’s a response, it’s always to a negative post that’s over the top. Which then dictates that’s how you get a response from the team.
It’s…disturbing.
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The developers don’t want to have a discussion. They want to play the victim for their bad choices while ignoring the player base. It truly is disturbing.
DPS plays a huge role in the success of a match. DPS don’t need tanks or supports to make plays but tanks and supports need DPS. This is a core issue with the game. DPS is far more independent and plays like it as a result. Meanwhile tanks and supports need good grouping and teamwork the thrive.
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For the record this started out as a vent topic, i never expected anyone to read it or reply to it
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Thanks for the “collaborative” leadership Jeff!
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sir, put cancel for writh form for reaper to another button ,becauce of my twitchiness i canceled my writh form multiple times when i needed to escape i could not because it was mapped to shoot button l
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sir, put cancel for writh form for reaper to another button ,becauce of my twitchiness i canceled my writh form multiple times when i needed to escape i could not because it was mapped to shoot button l
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Balancing ??? When are you going to balance the heroes that are getting asked to get balanced by the community? Like Briggite.
i doubt it but any chance we can get an update on what is happening with hog?
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You might want to check the patch notes…
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Jeff,
Thank you for replying to this issue. I understand that you are a tank fan. I am also a tank main. If I had my choice, I would focus on Rein and D.va. But the challenge is that the changes made are not done in a vacuum. Changes to tank killers and armor fundamentally change the way games are played in mid and higher ranks.
While I agree Brig needed changes, adding damage beyond what most pickup games or LFG teams can coordinate (enough to compensate for) and stunting tank survivability surly can’t always be the right answer. There seems to be a push to massively increase damage for one character, then increase damage on other characters to allow them to “compete”…but those players who are dedicated to making space, going forward and allowing for progress to be made (tank mains) are continuously left with fewer and fewer protections. Not everything is a team fight with casual players.
I get that everyone likes talking about Goats and Death ball or Dive. But those are not the heart of the game. The game is about dynamic strategies where each player has to think on their proverbial toes, even when coordinating for team strats. This is especially true for shield tank mains. There is a reason so few shield tank mains are represented in the upper echelons of ranked. And before someone say’s “get gud”, that isn’t the point. It is simply easier to rank up as DPS and it is getting easier and easier (and I still see Brig as a DPS character as much as an off tank or healer). Tanks are important, but a lot is done to discourage people from picking up Rein, Orisa or Winston. We see shields in a lot of games…but not because they are played by tank mains. They are reluctant choices by DPS mains usually…and that just sucks.
When someone is learning how to play or playing ranked, and they have a choice of going damage, which has a lower general skill floor to be effective, or a tank, which has to depend on situationally aware DPS and heals, they are going to go the easier and more rewarding route. If I the game was in it’s current state when I started…I would do the same. It is painful to play and struggle because of dependencies on other characters that are too busy “fragging” because that is what they are supposed to do and not worrying about team positioning or game play.
As a fellow tank main…please help. I get tanks are not as sexy to play as DPS or as a damage/heal option (i.e. Brig, Zen or Moira), but they are important and as people who love the game, we should be encouraging people to learn how to play them, not reminding people how much better it is to pick damage and let the shortest straw go tank. Hopefully I am not the only one who thinks so…
…ok rant over.
Just needed to vent…
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" [ i dont actually think they hate tank players)]"
Well, now I do.
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It’s like no one reads the COC.
DON’T NECRO POSTS.
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oh god my biggest mistake is back
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i feel like they do hate tank players
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What can i say? It’s topical.
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When this thread was first made, I saw it as overly self-pitying. Now, it’s weirdly prophetic.
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It’s not necroing, it had a reason to be bumped because it’s related to the topic being it feels like the devs hate tank players
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Agreed, I think they just want to kill tanks so GOATs will disappear
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