Echo's ult has 0 consequences when missused

ALl the ults have drow-backs and consequences whe missused.

Examples:
.Roadhog cannot self-heal while using his
.Mccree and Phara basically stay in one place and be be avoided or countedred with a matrix, shield or ana sleep
. Orisa’s ult can be destroyed
. Zennyattas ult can be countered by a ana anti-heal

In Echo’s case there is literally no consequence of miss-using her ult. She can turn into whoever she wants from the enmy team, jump in the miedled of the nemey team like crazy and it doesn’t matter if she gets killed will just return with full hp…

A lot needs to chagne about this character or she’ll just be busted and make matches completly unfun…

I don’t understand if people that say she’s not OP right now clearly don’t understand the power of this character at the moment, or just want to aply her every single game and make the game not fun for eveyrone else…

P:S: And this is only about her ult I’m not evne mentioning her OP E ability and the fact that she can kill every non tank character with just one right click -.-

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You have to land all 6 shots with her right click to kill a 200 HP hero. It won’t kill a 250 HP hero. If that hero recieves healing from any source between the landing of the bombs and their detonation, that hero will survive. Her beam only does 200 DPS if you’re below half health; it is a finisher, one that is easier to react to, is a channel, and is on par with most other forms of sustained damage.

Echo is a DPS; her abilities are good for her being a DPS.

Now, I do agree with her ultimate. If she dies as a copy she should actually die. I also think her ult charge gain should be decreased while she’s ulting, and the ult cost in general should be increased. But she’s not as broken as everyone is making her out to be.

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lucios ult has 0 consequences if misused.

brigs ult has 0 consequences if misused.

mercy’s ult has 0 consequences if misused

torbs ult has 0 consequences if misused.

doomfist ult has 0 consequences if misused

shall I continue or?

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Most people already agree her ult is the biggest thing that needs tuning.

It’s very likely her ult will be the first thing adjusted in the next PTR patch

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From all those ults only Brig’s and Lucio’s are really powerfull.

And none of them are as powerfull has copying a hero and getting 2 ults in 15 seconds -.-

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You are 100% wrong on all of those.

Have you never been killed mid air as Lucio and got 0 shields?

With brig enemy team focuses you and you die.

Mercy getting sniped out of the sky.

Torb throws lava all over wrong part of map and people just walk around it.

Domfist ults into entire enemy team and gets insta killed.

Shall I continue?

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Lucios Ult can be blocked by shields
Brigs ult actually makes Sigma’s ult do more damage (higher total hp means more damage when slammed)
Mercys heal can be countered by Ana’s Nade, damage boost is still valid though.
Torbs ult can be eaten by d’va mid air.
Doom’s ult is blocked by line of sight and shields.

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An aggressive misused Doomfist ult can be punished.

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if you get killed mid air you didn’t use the ultimate. your ultimate got shut down.

the enemy team focuses you and you die as echo.

your point?

echo gets sniped out of her ult.

echo uses her ult and they just retreat group up and focus her.

youre assuming doomfist has to use his ult into the enemy team.

he doesn’t.

shall I continue?

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The most funny thing I thought of in this thread;

“The only counter play to Echo’s ultimate is to kill her before she uses it.”

Where have I heard that before???

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okay and? being blocked isn’t a consequence. its denial.

if this is your method of thinking, echos ult can be used improperly and shut down by a sleepdart, shatter or any other cc ult.

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Yes you should as you didn’t make a single valid point.

Lucio’s dies and ult goes back to 0.

Echo is focused down and doesn’t die it just ends her ult early.

That would be like if killing brig during rally just ended her ult and reset her hp to full, but it doesn’t does it?

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Except for the fact that she really gets no immediate value from her ult unless she burns her CD and is low health/a sitting duck

And isn’t guaranteed another ultimate whatsoever, it can be very easy to cc or focus her down b4 she can get a single ability off, it’s almost guaranteed either her duration on the ult or the ult % gain will be drastically lowered relatively speaking, where it will become even more apparent that her ult is the best in a “vacuum”, and given some time on live ppl will adapt and it won’t be nearly as good as people claim

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simply saying I don’t have a valid point doesn’t mean anything.

everything I said is a valid point

refusing to accept it doesn’t change that.

and?

there are plently of ults like that.

torbs.

widows.

hanzos.

they all just do nothing if focused on.

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I guess people think that echo is somehow immune to shatter, sleepdart, boops, shieldbash, and every other form of cc in the game

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If echo misuses her ult and feeds the enemy ults while getting no value that seems like a bad thing to me.

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Ok, except you did use the ultimate because you lose all of your ult charge and Lucio screamed his ult line.

This isn’t true though. At worst, you ‘die’ and instantly come back as full-health echo.

Again, at worst Echo will just get instantly returned to her normal form with full health.

If the enemy team retreats, you still got value out of the ult.

You said that ‘doomfist ult has 0 consequences if misused’. Using his ult into the middle of the enemy team is literally misusing the ult.

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no its not.

misusing the ult would be using it at an in opportune time.

accidentally hitting q in spawn is misusing it.

jumping into the enemy team with it is feeding.

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yea i have the feeling this is the first thing that will be adjusted in regards to echo if they do eventually nerf her

maybe have her die then have another life and revert to true form

i think that would be fair

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tell me the consequence to misusing:

widows ultimate

hanzos ultimate

torbjorns ultimate

winstons ultimate

tracers ultimate

Ashe’s ultimate

sombras ultimate

soldiers ultimate

and meis ultimate

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