Echo shouldn't be able to cancel beam

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Channeling abilities are inherently punishable for misuse.

Genji Deflect
Pharah Barrage
Moira Coalescence
Sigma Kinetic Grasp* (Can be cancelled specifically by accretion only)
Roadhog Whole Hog

Yet Echo can cancel her beam at will if she uses it at the wrong time, thus she can’t be punished for misuse. That’s kind of silly.

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It’s silly that those characters can’t cancel their abilities it’s just bad game design so let’s not condemn the developers for making a good design choice

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Yeah I agree, and they should make it effective when the health is lower than 33% instead on 50%

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That would be a very fair nerf. I’m not saying she doesn’t need anything else nerfed, but that is a good place to start. Also, I’m pretty sure Genji can cancel deflect by wall climbing and dashing.

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Canceled by Swift Strike

Is an ultimate

Also an Ultimate

Also an ultimate.

Channeling abilities are generally more powerful because of the channel, but the ones that can’t be canceled tend to be the exception and not the rule.

Mercy’s Rez, the ultimates you mentioned and a couple others, and Doomfist’s Seismic slam are the only abilities that come to mind that can’t be canceled by the user.

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Powercreep isn’t real though. :clown_face:

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She just wasted a potential 200 dps. That can’t be punished?

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That’s entirely different to cancelling Echo’s beam though, because in cancelling deflect you’re using another ability. Echo just presses E again and faces no consequences.

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Dat power creep of canceling a beam. If that is all we have to worry about nowadays, I am happy.

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Mercy can cancel her GA if she thinks it’s not a safe decision.

What’s your point?

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I guess they want to punish Echo in moments where a half target victim gets double pocketed?

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Reins charge

Orisas fortify

Can take a breather be canceled?

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I think they should lower the beam damage when it hits a target with 50% hp, sure it will still melt DPS, but i cant melt tanks.

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claps thank you for listing the differences that often get overlooked

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I don’t want to imagine that…
1v3 but two are pockets…
The receiving end though…

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dva shouldn’t be able to toggle dmatrix.

channeling abilities are inherently punishable for misuse.

remember how bad dva was when she couldn’t toggle?

echo shouldn’t be punished for using an ability meant to finish off low targets for using it to finish low targets.

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Kinetic Grasp can also be cancelled with Gravitic Flux, and the barrier can be cancelled while using Grasp or Flux.

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Oh yeah, because there are so many consequences to using Swift Strike.

I think in this case, I wouldn’t count Fortify since Orisa can use all of her other abilities while using fortify. It’s not a channel per se, it’s more of just a straight buff. Similarly, I wouldn’t call Torbjorn’s Overload a channel either. You can interupt channel abilities with stuns and the like.

Rein’s Charge and TaB do fall under what I personally call a channel though.

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It also kills 200s with 20% accuracy when half health. And stuff. Don’t forget to use your Deflect, Kinetic Grasp and DM!

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Wall climb also cancels deflect fyi.