Echo Nerf Ideas

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These are some ideas for Echo nerfs I thought up just in case she ends up being overpowered.

  1. Focusing Beam only does 200dps on targets under 30% hp. The developers said this ability is supposed to be a finisher, but a Roadhog at 300hp shouldn’t exactly be melted down by Echo with an ability that’s supposed to be a “finisher”
  2. Echo should die during her ultimate. It seems kind of busted that she can just transform and destroy the backline with no fear of getting punished, then when she dies she just reverts back into Echo and flies away.
  3. Don’t let her stay in the air forever. If you time your flight right, you can fly forever. While you don’t maintain your height, Echo can stay in the air long enough for her flight cooldown to come back and then she can head to the highest point of the sky again.

Again, these are just some ideas I thought up in response to what people dislike about Echo. What do you think of Echo. Do you think she needs nerfs, buffs, or is she just fine. Let me know how you feel about Echo below :slight_smile:

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  • Increase the cool down on sticky bombs.

  • Adjust the 650% ult charge increase rate from Duplicate to 300% maybe 400&

  • Increase the ult charge required for duplicate by 10-15%

  • Shorten Focusing Beams range.

  • When Echo’s copy dies and she re-enters back to her base state before she duplicated (eg if she had cool downs on, she will still have to wait. Possibly HP too.)

There’s so many things you could go with

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Nah I’m good. I like echo as is and watching the people who are too lazy to actually focus fire her get rolled.

Echo is fine, blizz literally said this is what they wanted and I agree. Off tanks have a reason to be played again and I’m all for it

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Why not? Pharah can do the same thing. They both have wings. Let them fly

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Can we stop with this? She’s not even op. My god these forums are so over dramatic. Anything we get needs nerfs with y’all.

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She can’t even stay in the air forever as is. Lol

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That was a hilarious joke you made. :joy:

:penguin:

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She’s not, and it’s not a joke. Played all day and echo wasn’t a problem. Also watched a couple pros all day to and all of them also agreed she wasn’t op and explained why. These forums are Just a bunch of drama queens.

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I agree with (2) in particular. Make her die if she gets killed while transformed. Done.

Other ideas I’d have, obviously not meant to all be applied:

  • Sticky bombs are shot while holding down RMB, over ~2 seconds, with a certain spread to them. Prevents trivially blowing single targets up.
  • Beam capped to have 200DPS on targets below 100 health (absolute number, not percent). Playing tanks is punishing enough as it is.
  • Being EMPed while transformed drops you out of ult and keeps you hacked, like every other hero in the game. Consistency.
  • If they’re unwilling to make her die from her copy state being killed, then set her flight to full CD on ending her ult.
  • Maker her land until flight CD starts, but set it to… I dunno, 3s or so instead. You can constantly flutter up but you have to come down.
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Cool, it’s nice she’s not OP in higher leagues. Doesn’t help the 98% of the playerbase that aren’t there.

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She’s not op in lower ranks either… she’s a aim intensive hero. Good luck getting lower rank players to actually fly and aim with her. Something even pros struggle with. You’d have better luck with a variety of other heroes.

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Every joke you make, I laugh even harder… :joy:

:penguin:

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Here comes the nerfnerf choochoo trains again, it was pretty excepted to happen tbh cause it’s the forums… Sigh

Sorry bud but she’s fine as is. Nerfing her wont make your aim/be better at the game nor better at killing her :slight_smile:

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I know you’re trying to act cool and all, and I agree with the “it won’t make you better at the game” part, but she still needs a nerf.

I know you like arguing a lot on the forums, I’ve seen you a lot, but I’m just stating the fact that she still needs a nerf.

:penguin:

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After ultimate echo should go to her state before using it… not be back at full hp…

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She really doesn’t though. Y’all just live in your dreamworld of worst case scenarios happening with no application of how a real match plays out. Everything is op on paper doesn’t translate that way into the actual game. We have plenty of stronger hero’s in a array of diffrent areas. Litterally watched kubaji swap off her to tracer because he couldnt get anything done with her in a match and a ash kept destroying him.

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echo can become any hero she likes, and use their ultimate MULTIPLE times without even fear of dying. how is that fact ‘op on paper but not in actual play’. she literally can multiply any other hero’s damage output

maybe in high levels she isnt so bad, because people try to counter each other and have a decent teamwork ability…but down in silver, its a nightmare right now!

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Nerf how? One more nerf & she prob could be nerfed into the ground/useles, she’s literally been live less than 48h & people (who barely understand anything about how balancing works) are asking nerfs, etc for her, i’ve even seen few reworks threads for her after she was released.

At this point I just hope that they dont listen the biased forum warriors who wants everything nerfed to the ground immediately.

I was trying to say that as nice as possible & while im trying to redeem myself from the past, etcetc but there’s still few here that gets offended about anything.

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I play gold and no it’s not a nightmare down here like y’all are making it out to be.

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let reinhard use his ult twice… let reaper do it. stick that in comp and see how well its recieved.