Echo is a missed opportunity to make more people play Tank

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Just imagine it:
If Echo were a Tank you get to enjoy the short Tank Q times and still can pop of with Genji from time to time. I think that would have made a lot more people willing to fill this role.

Instead we get the 17th DPS and Q times will be beyond good and evil :weary:

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She lacks the body size to be a tank.

Also how can a flying tank work?

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Thatā€™s sizeist

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no one will play tank against triple flying meta.-

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It is, but that is the requirement for being a tank.

You want a tank hero? They have to first be big.

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I donā€™t see how the size is a problem though.

Just give her a Barrier with a larger hitbox that contains the biggest chunk of her health pool.

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That is not why size is important. Tanks need to be big so they can easily be identified as a tank.

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i donā€™t think echo should be a tank. just a different hero in general. however the most recent hero was a tank and we havenā€™t gotten a dps in a long time so I hate to say it but i think it is good we have a dps. I jsut want every 4th hero a dps and in between those more tanks and supports.

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Everyone who isnā€™t absolutely new to the game should be able to memorize that the white robot lady is a Tank fairly easy.

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Inara from paladins want to say hi!

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Oorr people can play the tanks that exist now too.

I love playing zarya, d.va and sometimes some sigma too, and iā€™m actually a healer main.

And i donā€™t think it really has to do with echo, because the whole point of being a tank is protecting your team and giving space. And that can become quite boring to some people.

They need to do something about the rank role to feel more rewarding and fun

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Iā€™m sorry,but thatā€™s the dumbest thing I read this week :joy::joy: Tanks have to be big to be identified??? Excuse me?! I canā€™t right now ā€¦

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Echo makes me not want to play tank.

I donā€™t need additional Rein who can build Shatter in two swings joining my Rein duel.

Itā€™s called a duel for a reason Blizzard. Duel, as in two people! She can also shred both me and the barrier too which doesnā€™t help.

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Echo looks nothing like a tank. Sheā€™s as skinny as Sym, who also cannot be a tank for the same reason.

Tanks are designed to be big for a reason, why would they just stop.

HI

But seriously OW and paladins design their heroes differently.

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Zaryaā€™s not all that large and some DPS like Doom or Bastion arenā€™t far off from being tank sized. Baby D.Va is also a thing.

But really, considering they were considering moving Hog of all heroes to damage, Iā€™m not so sure the devs care about role visuals as much as they once perhaps did.

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Being big only applies to tanks, DPS can be any size they want. Even still Zarya is still large in her own right.

Source?

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It would be a nice change to have a Tank who isnā€™t that generic fat guy or a giant killer robot.

Also you still didnā€™t tell us why exactly Heroes who donā€™t look like Tanks canā€™t be Tanks and I am honestly not getting it :woman_shrugging:

DPS and Supports are usually about the same size too and it is absolutely not a problem.

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Uh, why is that? Do DPS not need to be relatively small due to their health? And why do only tanks need to be recognizable right away as their role?

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Iā€™ve already stated that tanks are designed big so they can easily be identified as a tank, for new players and current players.

Almost every tank class in a game is big for that reason. Also look at every tank in the game, they are large. Thus this is their clear direction for designing tanks.

It is mostly for consistency and ease of learning. They also do this to help players with low graphics settings. So they can recognize a tank just by their silhouette. Almost like a squint test.

Also for Roadhog, it looks like they tried it out and it did not work. As of now, their design philosophy for tanks is to make them large and big. If Roadhog become a DPS, I would imagine they might change that.

Roadhog as a DPS was a failed experiment. Even if they considered it, they saw it as a bad idea in end. They also considered Sym with a healing beam and deemed that a failure too. However that does not mean healing beams are a good idea.

ā€œConsideredā€ is not the same as ā€œlets do itā€.

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Which makes absolutely no sense.
If you know that Echo is a Tank she doesnā€™t need to be big to be identified as one.

If you (for whatever reason) donā€™t know in which category a Hero is, just push TAB :woman_shrugging:

Zarya is about the same size as Doomfist/Bastion, so there are obviously exceptions.