Echo hit box busted?

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I just played the most frustrating game ever. Killed over and over by echo. But on kill cam, her aim was comically bad.

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Just echo things tbh. Hitboxes aside i have no idea how that character and her ridiculous kit was ever greenlighted

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Interesting take, why do dislike her kit?

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It’s not really one thing in particular but rather how everything tying together makes her very obnoxious. I’ll explain;

First of all she’s a very burst oriented hero. Which is fine, there are other burst heroes in the game like hanzo/junkrat/widow etc. But Echo’s flight makes it so extremely easy to reposition to confirm said burst compared to the others. Widowmaker has one repositioning tool on a moderately high cooldown and once used, enemies can reposition their barriers to block her los, thus denying her burst until she can reposition again. Echo on the other hand, has every degree of freedom to move around the battlefield with flight making repositioning barriers less effective. For example orisa puts a shield, echo simply flies over said shield.

Secondly. As if she already didnt have enough burst damage simply with her left and right click, she also has execute damage on her E… 200 dps… 260 with mercy pocket… that works on barriers and deployables… So she has burst damage that rivals the likes of hanzo/widow, while also being able to shred barriers which is something burst heroes would love to have in their kit, BUT is also hypermobile and has aerial mobility AND also has sustain damage to be able to fight tanks as well as squishies. All of that and i still havent even begun to cover her ultimate yet.

I think we all know why echo’s ult is strong. Thank god the devs are restricting her max health to 300 when ulting so she cant just copy tanks to buy time for her team.

So in summary, her kit has

  • High burst damage

  • High sustained damage

  • Extremely excessive mobility compared to most of the cast

  • Execute damage

  • Excellent shield break

  • Projectiles that can crit

  • Her ult brings way too much utility to the table when you consider how versatile the rest of her kit is

All the other dps in the came have some of these qualities, but Echo has all of them. Honestly the only real thing keeping her from being this uber broken, brig-level super monstrosity is the fact that a good hitscan player will pick her out of the sky in an instant.

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She is an objectively busted hero. If hitscans weren’t so comically oppressive she would be top tier across the entire ladder.

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This is pretty much gone in OW2. Not just the 300HP cap on tanks but also ults charging slower makes it harder to get use it. In the beta I found her ult to be mostly useful as a second life.

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Projectiles have relaxed hitboxes because they are harder to aim as compared to hitscans. And the 3 bullets in her left click goes out in a slightly expanding cone. Maybe that is what happened?