D.Va is horrendously outdated for OW2

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the title pretty much sums it up. she just doesn’t work in her current form as the single tank for a team.

if you want proof, go watch the houston outlaws vs boston uprising match on eichenwalde that happened on the 22nd. couldn’t even break into the first capture point with her, watch the D.Va and you’ll know why

the main problem (that everyone seems to somehow forget) is that she was DESIGNED to fundamentally work with a second tank to back her up and let her catch her breath, recharge matrix, peel for her team…

in OW2, she is spread too thin. the match I’m referencing above proves this. Doge literally can’t start an engage with his dps AND protect his own supports at the same time.

not only that, most, if not every other tank got a significant buff to help them solo tank.

-Rein got two firestrikes, can cancel charge
-Monkey has poked range now
-Orisa is just a single gladiator mega horse
-Hog can use vape and hook while ulting!!! actually crazy
-Sigma gets way more total health even though he already has every ability under the sun, including personal defense matrix and his own stun AND a shield
-Zarya with her shared bubble counter makes it so much harder to know when to actually engage onto her or her allies
-ball, the definition of solo tank himself

and what did D.Va get?

some measly extra armor instead of regular hp (not even more total hp) and 25 damage on her boosters?
are you joking? why is nobody talking about how hard she’s getting ignored by the dev team?

and before someone says:
“oh, see they don’t want to give her too many buffs because she’s already strong and just one wrong buff could make her perma bully d.va meta!”

i’m not saying to make her broken. i’m asking to adjust her kit and redesign the hero COMPLETELY so she can actually work as a solo tank and not depending on a tank buddy like the way she originally was designed.

you rework heroes like bastion, sombra, doom, symmetra like 4 times, to make them work

why not D.Va?
arguable the second if not most popular character in the game??

TL;DR - she wasn’t designed to be a solo tank. rework D.Va.

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Keep advocating for those buffs. I wanna go into pubs and get the tactical nucks.

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i’m not asking for buffs, i’m asking for D.Va to get reworked to fit as a solo tank for OW2.

but yes getting tactical nukes is nice.

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More buffs please. I wanna clap harder.

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I’m bad at the game and have a very bad sight and only play D’Va and it’s probably just an impression but i think i was dying quicker in ow2 beta than on regular ow1 games .

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I mean the gameplay was nice, but you were going against another D.Va here in a mirror match, so it doesn’t really show how weak she is against the other tanks

if you only play D.Va then you definitely did notice that she gets demeched much faster in OW2, because she’s the only truck sized model on a team to shoot at.

(that, and her critbox is in the center of her model, meaning unlike against other heroes, if you miss going for a headshot you still do damage…)

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Yup. Exactly.
My main issue is when playing against zarya. You are just going to feed because there is no way of blocking that laser and also doing your job too.

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I mean pretty much exactly lol. Whenever I tried playing D.Va into Zarya in the beta, I just didn’t know what to do…

You can’t exactly facetank 1v1 her, you’ll get torn apart by the beam. You can’t just give her the frontline either or her team just takes infinite space against your team.

Like what are you supposed to do?

There isn’t always a highground advantage to be taken.

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The shift to 5v5 was bigger than anticipated, and many heroes needed more tweaking than they actually got.

We should be harsh on them because it took them 3 years to release OW2, and yet here we are, having half baked changes.

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Dva is massively underpowered for OW2.

I don’t play her and even I think she needs almost double the time of matrix and 0 cooldown before you can toggle it on and off.

The second you run out of matrix you are fodder. It doesn’t matter how much health or shields you have.

A single tank who has no defence ability and has to be upclose to get work done is going to get shredded in micro seconds.

Plus all the meta dps heroes are ones that attack you from the side/back and make dva turn around like tracer and genji.

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well im still gonna main d.va regardless she is good or not

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D.va is probably not pro meta or whatever.

But I know this much:

There’s a lot of really trash D.va players.

You gotta go all in aggro. You can’t sit back and poke. You must commit to a kill. If you attack something you are shooting at it until the moment either you or it dies. You never change your mind and back off.

You can’t be scared to trade. D.va bomb is a resource. Yeeted D.va bombs can get kills, but the free mech is more consistently valuable.

You gotta have gun skill as D.va. If you can’t get in 10m range and chunk a thing with headshots over and over you suck at D.va. That 280 dps with just the shotguns alone makes her good. You aren’t landing the headshots it drops to 140 dps.

That’s how you beat zarya. She comes at you with 165 dps and you wait out her bubbles and within about a second and a half you are dumping shotguns (280 dps), missiles (150 dmg), then you throw in your little bump + melee (55 dmg) she goes down.

You are dealing 485 damage in about 1 second and have 650 hp with 300 armor reducing dmg by 30 percent. Ok, she has 475 hp and can only return 165 dmg per second (115 through the armor). Without both bubbles or even if she has just one who is winning that fight?

Now you don’t hit her in the head what happens? It still looks good. The first second you deal 290 damage to her and she hits you for 115, but it’s not a guaranteed win. The shotty needs to go to the face.

You also have to be good at baby D.va. If you can’t throw a self destruct and get out of mech and delete a squishy with headshots before your mech comes back online you suck at D.va.

It’s just a matter of git gud.

But nvm, erase what I just said and don’t cause I want more buffs.

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So what you are saying is she isn’t pro meta. Which means you could have OWL godlike skills and it’s still not enough. You could be an average JQ or Monkey and get more value.

But then make a case how amazing she is and can even dump on her counter tank. Then say git gud?

I am so confused. If you can play another tank badly and get as much value, then she needs buffs.

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JQ is getting bodied to B+ tier like Sigma in OW 1 after 35 nerfs. D.va is getting the buffs.

It’s gonna level the playing field.

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:rofl: Yeah, that 1 less second on micro missiles or w/e is gonna crack the game in half like an egg.

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“BAH GAWD! SHE BROKE ZARYA IN HALF! SHE BROKE HER IN HALF! SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!”

(“Iz dis easy mode!”)

Coming soon next OWL.

You heard it here first.

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Haha yea, what she needs is double the duration of matrix, or double the speed of the regen time.

What she got was 1 second off micro missiles. Like it’s going to make her an insta lock :rofl:

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Naw bro, it’s that 12 percent faster remech when she gets taken out of it.

You ain’t good at D.va unless you spend at least half the game in baby form.

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Can you imagine the conversations at Blizzard.

Intern - Dva needs huge buffs as she is a dive off tank, shall we say 25% faster remech?

Dev - Are you crazy 25%

intern - 20%? I mean we have less people to shoot at and one less tank that was the main way for dva to get remech ult.

Dev - 25% would break the game Dave.

3 months and 10 meetings later…

Dev - 12% it is and 1 second off micro missiles…horrah!! Drinks on me!

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They are gonna keep buffing her cause OWL and noobs on bronze/silver.

She’s getting reverse sigma’d. She’s gonna keep getting all the buffs.

Next patch longer range on DM.

You heard it here first.