Dumb question about Bap's gun

Why do all of his guns have an ADS target/scope thing on top when we can’t use it?

I know the immediate answer is because grenades are bound to M2.

Do you think for OW2 they should replace Immortality field or shift heal with nades, and free up his M2 to work like Ashe’s aim down sights?

No on the proposed changes.

As for sights question,
You can make up so many reasons but the one I’ll stick with: He has a scouter like system which can be assumed does the targeting for him.

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Its actually really interesting that Overwatch went the route of no ammo, very good hipfire spread regardless of motion, and completing removing the ADS in most other games. Its very refreshing. I see no reason really to do that as the scope fire is pretty unique rather than being a thing all weapons get.

It makes the ability to fine tune weapons possible by restricting too many universal things given or handed out en masse.

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I would love if he had aim down sights, but I kinda like immortality field and don’t want it gone.

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I don’t think he should have the ability to aim down sights, it would encourage low rank baps to hard scope and they would die even more then they already do

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You serious? Lmao.
You wanna replace his best ability with aim down? Hard pass.

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Give him ADS in FFA :sunglasses:

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I’m pretty sure that iron sight is meant for grenade launchers rather than rifles. In a game like OW a ladder or leaf iron sight would not be very helpful.

Basically you would be looking through something like this:

very simple. It is there for aesthetics and he doesn’t use it because of design choice.
Not having it also means character like ashe are more unique, because lets face it, that is her only niche.

I hope not. If they’re going to replace Immortality they better keep the lamp but give it a different effect, It’s one of the more interesting parts of his kit imo.

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I guess they wanted to try keep the game as fast as possible, and having things like having to scrounge for ammo and ADS would slow that down.

Correct me if im wrong, but maybe it is just a design remnant? I guess they decided to make him a healer instead?

These do not look like grenade trajectory helper thingies,

these are like proper ADS ironsights with presumably a dot or reticle thing inside (I cant see them properly)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UWi9w41vVjo/maxresdefault.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ADcUHW0AAhYqg.jpg

The thing is that is a non-canon skin, which often takes creative liberties. Even then things like Roadhog’s scrap gun on his militia skin looks like an assault rifle, and that is a canon skin.

On the other hand concept art for the talon skin’s iron sights do show it using ladder sights:

As well as for his normal weapon, it shows ladders on it too:

Also in regards to the images you’ve shown, it can be a holographic leaf sight. Just because it is a holographic sight does not mean it always has a red dot. As holographic sights come in different forms. Ladder sights are often metal because its cheaper and it gets the job done, but hey this is the future.

I’ll admit a holographic ladder sight is overkill.

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I wish we could use these ladder things then! It’s kinda hard to land nades sometimes

Sure, I am not sure how good it will be but I would mind testing that

The only other character I think could use the alternate firing is Soldier, with his hipfire being his old spread and ADS being the current kind. But he has the same problem as Baptiste where M2 is already bound.

He’s supposed to be like a bridge between OW and traditional shooters, but hipfire vs more stable ADS is a staple of those games

For Baptiste, it would interrupt his flow too much and probably make too many Baptistes too prone to tunnelvisioning DPS even more than they already do.