Though I like the idea of making Doomfist a tank. The key would be to focus him on his displacement, like Hammond in a way.
That is:
Remove the non-wall-impact damage from Rocket Punch or make it 5 damage. Hey, 5 damage worked for Brigitte!
Remove some of the wall-impact damage. Total damage should never be higher than ~150.
Remove either all or most damage from Uppercut. Again, 5 could work. It’s a CC tool, not a damage skill.
Remove some damage from primary fire but add pellets. In theory at shorted distance it’d do the same damage as before but at longer range it’s a neat tool to keep people occupied.
HP to ~400.
Connecting any skill including the shotgun gives up to 50 shields. These can only refresh/refill. 50 is the cap.
The exception is Rocket Punch. Punch someone into a wall with it, and independent of damage done you get 200 shields. Only if they hit a wall.
Increase the CD of Rocket Punch marginally and of all other skills moderately.
You’d be very sturdy, very good at displacement, but those two are your only tools to protect your team with. Your own damage is very low and also very unreliable. The only reasonable attack skill you’d have is your ult.
It worked for a Support hero with a stun that she can use while protecting herself with her shield. That’s like Reinhardt charging with his shield out.
Hammond’s displacement does 50 per hit…
If all of his abilities do so very VERY little damage and they don’t even get the old CC back, they should be LOWERED.
With those changes, Doomfist would not just be the worst tank in the history of the game, but the worst character as well. Bastion gettin ready to give the tittle away to somebody else for once
yes and everybody keeps forgetting that. the reduction to cooldowns lets to be all over the place with alot of shields considering he can combo alot more now letting him go in and out without a scratch. but every doom main acts as doom is a victim of the meta (when he was strong before as they introduced the reduction buff) when he is not.
Why do you want orisa to be garbage? The only reason she’s as strong as she is because all the constant dps buffs have pushed dive tanks like dva Winston and ball out of the meta so they can’t do there jobs of countering these comps.
The issue was running two slow shield tanks like orisa sigma would leave supports open to be dived, but then you have storm arrow, flash+ double FTH, reaper healing 40% of your damage with double magazine if he has wraith, etc. Meanwhile you have a widow ready to oneshot everyone stupid fast while your tanks are getting melted by the super dps buffed to fight goats.
It’s one- ONE second on two abilities that are used together, most of the time.
This doesn’t allow him to be all over the place, this only made his gameplay feel more fluid.
And yes, he IS a symptom of the meta. He had only a 2% pick rate before the introduction of Double Shield.
He’s the most reliable dps at the moment because he’s the only one who can completely ignore the barrier spam.
one second does all the difference in a fast paced game.
the buff was added just before goats died and theoritcally where goats was at its prime so no one gave him that much of a chance or did they? his pickrate was abismal before the buff 0.76 right as buff came it climbed 2% and remember what i said the buff was just introduced so not many actually gave him chance because it was goats for the win? and even then as he got buffed hackfist comp became a thing as he got buffed why?
Hammond doesn’t instant-kill you if his displacement knocks you into a wall, either.
Mind you, for a tank, displacement is okay. So maybe after becoming a tank and shedding all his OP damage given his Reinhardt-hitbox, yeah sure, CC CDs could come down. Though he still has two main CC skills, but I can see the comparison with Hammond who is easier to disable and pin down but also targets multiple people with his CC skills.
So yeah, sure, maybe. I’d lower damage even more then, though. No reason for a tank to do pseudo-instakills.
Number one reason as to why Blizzard should never listen to the forums for balance suggestions. Luckily they’re not doing that.
There are many heroes that I personally hate, but I would never want them to be garbage tier.
You want Doomfist to be exactly that.
OP damage… Good one. 50 damage on Uppercut, 125 potential damage on Seismic Slam and 100+150 on Rocket Punch.
With his Hand Cannon doing 66 to 122 x4.
He can dish out some damage, true, but it’s locked away behind cooldowns. He has NO consistent damage, like McCree for example.
You want to see OP damage, just look at Hanzo.
Do you know what an INSTA-KILL even is? Doomfist has one. ONE. On his horrifically bad ultimate.
The hitbox of a tank on a dps hero, and yet it’s somehow hard to burst him down. Omegalol
Roadhog, Sigma, Zarya at full charge…
REIN WITH HIS PIN.
I’m sorry, I understand that you’re mad, but if you think Doomfist is such a tiny problem and he’s no big deal, well… that’s you.
He might be okay at higher levels, sure. Where your local sniper reliable 2-taps him because perfect aim. But below that, he’s the entire reason Moira is the default main healer, she can at least survive him plowing through your team while being factually unkillable without McCree whenever the ult is up.
But you know, I apologize the first post wasn’t sarcastic enough to be obvious.
Orisa basically gutted and nerfed to obscurity. Imagine nerfing tank who was considered throwpick not so long ago and has gotten 2-3 quality of life buffs.
First well deserved, second not really.
Lol, just a nerf to Moira for the sake of nerfing Moira.
Barrier hp needs to go up, but those other “changes” are not necessary. Especially, the wipshot and Rally nerfs. Do you realize how long it takes to charge Rally? It’s not even worth it to use repair packs to give armor. Just keep healing with them.
Yeah? no. We need nerfs to healing and damage overall and nerfing tanks like this so they can be melted even easier is a nice way of making people not quit them. i hate playing Orisa but she is literally the only tank besides Sigma rn that i can play the game even tho i’m not having fun.
