Ever since they nerfed the dps passive to 10% against tanks yup.
GOATS deleted the dps role
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Nah, Im doing more than fine on dps, sounds like a problem in oneself as zen would say.
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My guy, having more HP as a baseline LITERALLY means that ANY heal will have 2x the chances of keeping you alive and giving you more seconds alive, which is, LITERALLY the thing that benefit supports more.
Unless we are talking about BURST damage (which Tracer doesnt have) what you said is plainly wrong. Sorry you hate Tracer (I have 0 feelings about her) but reality is not warping (yeah I did that) to make anything you said true.
Call me when the movie script is bought by Netflix mate because this is beyond gaslighting and more into Sci Fi territory.
Again, let me repeat:
This is just factual. Period.
Dude you really need to stop changing narratives to make up things that dont exist, its getting really cringe. Couple of things:
- The team that created GOATS did it because they didnt have good hitscan players/widow players, so they choose a “just press W” comp with beefy HP and AoE heals. Not because that was the only comp able to “beat” Widow lol.
- Double Shields was a possibility for a GAZILLION years (Rein+Orisa), the character Enabling, creating, and giving birth to Double Shields was Sigma.
- Bonus points: Widow and Hanzo were still good and still used the same during double shield so yeah, nobody believes your made up story.
Not in this universe. Stop the gaslighting attempts my guy. She was part of ZERO metas and Double Sniper lasted for a breath and a half.
Chill 
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To apply the debuff and be a cute cheerleader that inspires the real players to perform well.
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Do it on venture all the time, sounds like skill issue. Combo to use, Drill dash (90 dmg), melee (70 dmg) 2x shots (75 each), Burrow and pop (100 dmg). then repeat. that is 410 damage per rotation and this is the span of 10 seconds and you can throw in an extra shot or two directly after popping out of burrow.
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DPS are not cosmetic and are often the reason the game is lost due to no pressure or no protection of the supports. They have all the tools in the role, but dont play them correctly, while supports and tanks are forced to switch.
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Tanks are buff because nobody wants to play the role with tanks that fall over. I can kill them, but it’s pretty difficult to do alone . It’s the headshot passive and lowered DPS passive making it difficult.
Again, Tracer’s value is not on being a burst assassin. Even if she isnt getting constant kills she will still keep the entire backline
The HP increase does not ultimately make that much of a difference against a hero whose value isnt on killing out outright.
Tracer is a hero that by design can spare the extra time. Her entire design is constant combat pressure and resets.
The HP changes severely damage the viability of heroes like Symmetra (and Junk/Mei, but they got some minor buffs at least) far more than Tracer lmao
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The breakpoint changes benefit Tracer more than just about any hero on the roster…
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Oh absolutely.
But also as a sustained hitscan hero who already was allowed to stay in combat for far longer, the extra hp on some supports doesnt really matters much, specially since she can full clip and melee combo to get a 1 encounter kill anyways.
Same reason the HP changes didnt make Soldier worse at killing people.
The TTK of hitscans like them did not get really affected compared to projectile/beam heroes with low range or survivability.
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my gm dps que times are faster than my diamond support ques on an alt account
intellectual dishonesty, just because you play in a rank where people turn off their monitors does not mean that the role is not cosmetic.
overwatch is not a MOBA, its not a MMO RPG, its a hero first person shooter
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What, saying a role isn’t cosmetic where the players actually ARE is a thing.
Yes, but there are situations where they are similar.
Again, thats just intellectual dishonesty, thats like saying widow as of her current state is not broken because low ranked players cant play her, like PLEASE, stop using this point, you have no idea how stupid you sound and how much it irrationally makes me angry
its either a moba or it isnt, no such thing in between especially since there is zero pve elements in ow
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What that Blizzard cares about the ranks where the players actually are?
OF COURSE that is what they care about, they are making a game to make money.
That is like saying an Orange is an Orange or it isn’t. Which is true, but it doesn’t mean that mandarins don’t share a lot of DNA with them, or that you can draw conclusions about one from the other.
okay? and? this is still not a point, widow is broken, dps is cosmetic, just because new players have no clue how the game works DOES NOT mean that these statements are not true, again, stop being intentionally ignorant.
is a mandarin an orange? No? end of discussion.
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Yes it is.
Blizzard cares about the ranks where people are. DPS isn’t cosmetic at those ranks nor is widow broken there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_orange
i still dont see how this is a valid point, you are not making sense, you are not disproving that dps is a cosmetic role nor how widow is broken, just that people who cant PLAY the game properly dont experience the issues even slightly high ranked players experience
you did NOT just list wiki as a source
here ill do your silly argument for you
mandarin is a citrus fruit under the same family as oranges, similar how FPS is a genre and hero shooter is a sub genre under that tree, your argument is that overwatch is similar to a moba, MOBAS are apples and fps are oranges, they are not the same type of fruit nor do they share the family tree
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Even widow isn’t enough. I had a game with 71% scoped accuracy and lost because my tank did not hold/take any space what so ever. Once the enemy switched to a shield, I wasn’t able to carry anymore because everyone just stood behind the tank who never had to drop shield because there wasn’t a tank contesting him. If I were a better widow I would have landed more headshots, but 71% has to be worth something right?
That said, a dps should NEVER be able to 1v1 a tank. A tank should require a team effort to take down or else they won’t be able to handle focus fire while trying to do their job. Dps also have some of the most impactful ultimates that can carry a fight on their own.
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go in without your DPS, you will lose your 3v5 matchup.
And there are similarities across all fruit. You can draw conclusions from one about others.
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if you lose half of your pawns in chess from the start you are in a disadvantage, that does not mean that pawns are as valuable as a rook or a queen.
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