lower the damage on slam (instead of 125slams cap it at 100 or around that mark) and maybe primary fire, take away rocket punch one shot and make it do something like 100 damage and you’ve got a fully functional dps doom that wouldn’t be oppressive and wouldn’t one shot you anymore.
And if these changes still aren’t enough simply just lower the damage even more it’s literally that simple 
Ow1 doom literally just needed a number change on all his damage abilities.
I don’t wanna hear the cc argument either when we have heroes who aren’t tanks that currently have cc and have better cc than ow1 doom had.
Ana has sleep, lucio has boop, brig has boop, pharah has boop, sojourn has slow, sombra has hack which can cancel out movement (form of cc), zen has kick boop which is cc, Ashe has boop knock back coachgun which is also cc, junk has cc on mines and trap.
All of these listed above aren’t tanks and yet have kits filled with cc.
Don’t wanna hear the “but cc isn’t fun” argument either because we all know with lower damage and no one shot a lot of you doom haters wouldn’t even mind fighting him like you do with current tank doom who literally has more cc but less damage which in turn results in him pinballing you around without killing you.
I’d also like to point out that tank doom has more damage potential than ow1 doom and can output more damage over the match.
Baffles me how they went down the rework route without even considering or trying a numbers tweak/change.
I hate what they’ve done to this hero.
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Yeah this would have worked. It’s actually sad to see Doom’s state rn lmao.
Honestly just revert him to first beta state and he’d be fine. Also he should be immune to cc while powerblocking
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They took one of the most unique heroes with a massive skill ceiling and turned him into a budget Winston.
It’s tragic.
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It’s too bad you’ll find little sympathy since he was top of the Smurf arsenal along with genii lol
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No he doesn’t work as a DPS, because he’s larger than Zarya.
He was always intended to be a tank as far character design goes. There’s nothing about his MO that fits with berserker dps they tried to shoehorn him into to play off the popularity of Genji.
His tenure as DPS was the aberration, something they foisted on him mid development, and that, as far as his gameplay core mechanics go, they never bothered to changed back.
They took a character intended to be a tank, made him a DPS that didn’t work, and then did a a half-aced job at turning him back into a Tank, the result is him being just that same DPS except with no damage OR survivability and now they’ve effectively abandoned him for at least this “season”.
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Him having a larger hitbox than Zarya literally means nothing and doesn’t mean he should be a tank lol.
Like I said before dps doom works if you adjust numbers
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Yeah but we can’t have support players struggling now can we?
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Well that’s the key thing, he’s notoriously hated on by lower ranked players who lack the skill and awareness and gamesense and hearing (the list goes on) to counter him.
Somehow lower ranks have managed to get a hero butchered for their lack of competency.
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We have heroes that heal too and aren’t support, heroes that soak damage that aren’t tanks…
The argument is always about quantity and Doom was the singular, most CC heavy character in the entire game.
So nope. Tankfist is where its at.
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They moved him because of cc not his one shot or damage
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Other heroes have cc and haven’t been reworked or moved.
The complaint isn’t about his cc on dps doom it’s about his damage for most players.
Look at tank doom rn, he has more cc but less burst damage and no one complains about him.
Again all I’m saying is he could have worked in ow2 as dps, with much lower dps I can guarantee he wouldn’t be oppressive and wouldn’t be complained about nearly as much as he used to by lower ranked players.
Im not saying its justified. I don’t agree at all with moving him to tank. Im just saying, you say they could rework his one shot snd stuff but thats not why blizzard reworked him. They cited cc as their reasoning.
I play support almost exclusively, there’s very little support can do besides sleep him or shield bash stun him, his strongest support counter would be worthless if he was still on dps since they removed cc.
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Not if they lowered his damage and took away his one shot on rocket punch.
If you had slam capped at 90, nerfed his primary fire slightly and nerfed rocket punch to do 100 or less damage he literally wouldn’t be oppressive at all.
Again even if at these damage numbers he’s still good you can continue to nerf the numbers until he’s balanced it’s really not hard.
Also you still have brig whip, lucio boop, moira fade, zen kick, bap jump and lamp, ana sleep dart and kiriko invincibility and teleport to counter him on support so no there isn’t very little you can do against him, pretty much every support hero now has something to deal with him.
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Maybe, but I really enjoy multi punch and the new power block move. Plus combining uppercut and slam feels nice to me.
It’s sad really this is the one time I’m hoping they consider reverting and scrapping a rework but I’m pretty sure that’s never happened before
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Fr man I despise the rework, I find myself missing the old slam and uppercut so much.
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Hard agree, just the rocket punch nerf would’ve been enough to start with.
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I think he would have needed a nerf to his max slam damage and maybe his primary fire on top of the rocket punch nerf but honestly it would be so easy to scale and change numbers wise.
They could continue to change damage numbers until he felt balanced.
I hate how they’ve made his slam a budget winston jump, taking away all the skill and tech from the dps doom slam. The removal of uppercut is another dumb change as well.
This should be the first rework that gets reverted but they’ll never do it.
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I think they are referring to the fact that Doom was meant to be a tank to begin with until they shoe horned him being a DPS.
He was a tank with a flak cannon and had the original incarnation of Sigma’s rock and could throw players, still far different than we he is now.
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