Can we address how utterly broken Doomfist really is? No other hero can one shot non-tanks with such little effort or skill, having access to multiple combos with extremely forgiving hitboxes, while having insane survivability and mobility and a near-uncounterable get out of jail free ult.
Just because he has a few hard counters like Sombra doesn’t mean it’s fine that he destroys the rest of the roster. His other drawbacks aren’t even real drawbacks. Being supposedly short range (even though Rocket Punch has a fairly decent range) and having a large hitbox mean very little when you have, by far, the best mobility in the game.
Clearly a direct nerf isn’t the answer. The last time that was done, he fell into obscurity and was considered a throw pick and a slight buff caused him to become dominant again. Nothing will fix Doomfist except a proper rework.
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Nah
He’s fine
If your having problems with doom that’s a player problem and you should just get better tbh
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Just play Ana + Sombra 4Head
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Just stay in position with your team 4head
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All you need to counter doomfist is a brain while also staying calm.
Only time he’s viable is when he can operate in the mist of chaos hunting down scattered and paranoid enemies.
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Doomfist preys on Ana though
He’s so easy to sleep though. He has a big hitbox and moves in straight lines.
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As you get higher they will wait out your sleep or come at angles you wont be able to know yjeu are coming frome
It’s hilarious how 4 or 5 months ago doomfist was considered a super high skill hero, and a great example of a dps who relied on decision-making instead of aim.
Then he got +5 hp on his passive and extra movement during ult, and suddenly he turned into low skill EZ mode trash.
(not saying which opinion is right/wrong, just that the forums are so zig-zaggy on this kind of stuff)
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I’m actually a Moira main so I never really get killed by Doom except for a lucky punch, I don’t need help dealing with him personally. But being a bystander, watching him singlehandedly dismantling my team is fun.
Maybe he’s not a problem at high ranks where teams can reliably counter him, but he absolutely dominates in the average ranks. His design is just so flawed, he’s either god tier broken or completely useless depending on the situation. I’ve never seen a game where a Doomfist was just average.
doomfist vs anna is much like the dva vs zarya interaction. you both easily have the versatility to kill and survive each other. it really comes down to whos more aware and who has the cooldowns they need
mcree and soldier are also good options
He is shut down by more counters harder than Genji is.
Your teams just refuse to swap to those counters.
I literally stopped reading there xDDDDD
He still is high skill in large scale. He’s just broken, not OP.
First of all, with any reasonable design, heroes should be bad at low skill, then gradually get better as the skill increases. DF is like, trash at low elo, OP in mid tier, and trash at high elo again. Same as how Moira is a godlike DPS in low tier, and becomes a joke you laugh at in higher tiers.
Second, just like others have said in multiple threads, his movement is extremely choppy. While there are other heroes who also have that (such as Tracer and Genji), neither of those heroes effortlessly insta-kill you if you miss your shots. There’s an actual performance required from the enemy player too. If the Genji is t500, yeah it’s gg you’re dead. If he’s gold, you’re perfectly fine and most likely get a chance to take more shots.
In the case of DF, if he’s even a low plat DF player, you’re dead 95% of the time.
Again, bad design, not OP.
Ehhh not really. It comes down to if you land your sleep or not, which can arguably easy against a doom but its not reliable
What the heck does that mean? “if you land your sleep or not”, “easy against a doom”, “but its not reliable” Do you not see the contradiction in your words? I agree that its not that he is OP, which I think he is, my much much bigger issue is he makes the game seriously un fun when having to play against him. He jumps on you from 50 KM away and there is zero you can do, stunned, uppercut, pew pew pew, your dead. It’s not fun. Period.
Doomfist needs a nerf.
That’s it there’s no arguing this. Only people who play Doomfist say he’s fine. everyone else hates him
It really is not that hard to kill him, the guy has the hitbox of a truck. Problem I see in lower ranks is people don’t realize that they need to focus him (the same reason why Reaper is so strong in the lower levels: people don’t realize they have to make him Target #1 and focus him down first).
I don’t play Ana, so I cannot offer too much commentary on playing around a Doom with her, but I will say that if you cannot aim your sleep darts, is there really any harm in swapping to Moira, Brig, or Lucio to better deal with the Doom?
No, the devs are too busy nerfing Sym, a hero who just discovered relevance.
Hope for the love of the game that they nerf the living life out of this hero, and the Doomfist mains are so utterly bloated in their opinion of themselves thinking they play a “difficult” hero.
Easy hero to play with way too much going for him.
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