it’s the same with winston is they have such low cooldowns and survivability it’s incredibly frustrating to play against them. doomfist can stun you against a wall every 4 seconds, his block is on a 6 second cooldown and his slam is also on 6 seconds
he forces you to play CC heavy heroes every single time to even have a chance to keep up with him
he just does too much and is way too versatile. it was whatever when he had lower health but now he has 525 health, 25% headshot reduction and also knockbacks do nothing to him.
everyone says he has so many counters but realistically there aren’t that many at all
tank- hog, mauga orisa which counter every tank
dps - cassidy, echo, sombra
support - ana, zen and they require to be bodyguarded to survive against him
idrc how much “skill” he takes to play, he just has too little downsides now and needs a nerf
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Doom should never have been a tank. And yes winston’s CDs are way too low but honestly if you make them longer he no longer becomes viable. Only thing i would slightly tinker with is the shield either less shield or slightly higher CD. Even then its kinda dicey
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Definitely agree. Give him his OW1 kit back and stick him back in the DPS pool.
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All the tanks are way way way too dps heavy imo.
It’s crazy that in most games top kills and dmg is the tank and they’re rarely ever actually tanking because they’re so op they just go off solo.
In qp I’m certain half the tanks just join the games to see how many kills they can get and aren’t even remotely interested in the game objectives.
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make doom a support hero
he’d heal by fisting his teammates
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Hero feels weak when not landing stuns. Stay away from the walls.
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You can very easily dumpster a Doomfist with Reaper (Yes, even in his current abysmal state).
These are just problems that stem from him being a tank and not Doomfist himself. Tank passives and the 1 tank format are the issues here.
You just listed 8 characters who can counter him with at least 2 for each role. You also forgot brig.
This has nothing to do with bad design and everything to do with bad balance. Those are two separate things.
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I’m comfortable playing Zarya against Doom, but let’s say I was on Ram or Sigma instead - I don’t mind seeing a Doom come out of the gate because steadfast got bumped up to 50% and I’m much less of a pinball.
Why would you complain about Doom instead of any of these, then?
Frankly, if I run into a Doom, I breathe a sigh of relief because it’s not a Hog or Mauga.
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Junkrat also counters Doom
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That’s like your eight-nerf Doom thread in a week, while we are in a Mauga/Hog meta.
But what shocks me way more is that you don’t like Winston. For real? I mean, it’s an opinion, sure, but I was pretty convinced that the community had two tanks where we all agreed that they were objectively fun to play with and against, and I was also pretty sure that those two were Winston and Rein.
If you want to tinker winston, the only thing to tinker is make the shield a half sphere instead of a full sphere.
winston and doom makes the support role feel trash and that’s what i mostly play
Doom is awesome. Winston was and is the OG cancer hero
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Sorry, again doom is an awesome tank but stay away from walls? In this game you don’t hug walls and there are like a hundred things scarier than doomist that will get you.
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Dps Doom did nothing wrong.
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ok block is on 7 seconds big deal
Every hero outside of Soldier 76 is bad design for someone.
I disagree, but the fact he basically flies is unnaturally pushed/silly animation wise and his punch hitbox is not competitive whatsoever. He can punch someone who is like 2 cars back from his stopping point.
The hero was just rushed like many of Blizz designs (just like echo was rushed to be a dps and sombra rework was rushed so it includes a bandaid perma invis passive), Venture was dropped with what feels like a missing ability, etc.
Guess it’s just quota deadlines and unmotivated bare minimum work that result in these types of releases.
2/3 of hero roster hard or soft counters him, yes he has no counters at all. Not like roadhog who has 3 counters of all hero roster.