Pretty much enemy teams are forced into going Moira, lucio, reaper just to deal with one hero.
There are other strong dps heros… But doomfist should probably shouldn’t be able to take over an entire game.
He doesn’t deserve to be trash. But he shouldn’t be a god either… And I’m many ways… He dwarfs genji
Could try sleeping him.
I’ve said this before, let me say it again
If one hero, forces at least three enemies to swap to deal with them, they’re either a low ranked pub stomper (Pharah), a super high skill cap high ranked monster (Tracer), or their compleatly overpowered/problematic (doomfist)
When a hero forces 3 players to swap for them in any ranks, thats when its truely problematic, because otherwise its just a special situation
You can’t he gets bubbled… And brig packed. Watch owl everything has gone stupid
That’s a 3v1 though…
He does have burst dmg, one shot potential, cc, mobility, and sustain on his own.
Nobody else has all that In one kit.
I’m not suggesting the hero need to be gutted. Not even close I think he’s healthy for the game. But his current state is so so strong
I just go Junkrat and completely stomp the Doomfist
You dont need 3 freaking heroes
I think his max health with his is needs to be capped at 300… He can constantly build it… But at 300 widow can one shot, McCree can combo ECT…
He is weak
He lacks range, he is huge, he is heavy CD reliant, he gets countered by a lot of heroes, often hard, his ult sucks, etc
Low grade weak complaint. Kill him and make him switch.
Both of those heroes can already kill him fairly easily
Is there an appreciable level of play that im unaware of where doomfist genuinely overcontributes to his teams chances of winning that someone can point me towards?
On public stats for the last few months, doomfist has a 50% win rate in gold/plat (Which represent over half of where the players exist on ladder) with 1-2% pick rate. His best stats are unsurprisingly in GM, where he climbs to a staggering 54% win rate, while still maintaining an under 2% pick rate.
I mean, feel free to argue doomfist is “frustrating”- but “overpowered”?
This is a HUGE exaggeration.
If he was weak, he wouldn’t be seeing so much play in OWL, and performing so well across the ladder and in GM(although I’ll fully admit his, and Reaper’s as well, enormous OWL pickrate this weekend is due in part to McCree and Mei being banned. Both because those two would eat up a lot of those picks as well as them both being good against Doom/Reaper).
He is range. His CD’s are minuscule, and can be cycled nearly non stop. His Ult is great for his kit.
He’s not broken, but I can understand Ana and Zen mains thinking such. He’s certainly not weak either.
This guy just gets rocked by Doomfist without learning how to counter him. Then he comes here to complain about it, in a vain attempt to get the character nerfed, so he can continue to play in the exact unchanging way that he wants to play.
I’ve seen it a thousand times.
Barring edge cases, no matter how this plays out, a mirror will almost always be forced and all we’ve done by forcing him to swap is trade one cancer with a different cancer that triggers more cancer.
Try learning Sombra, since according to this forum she’s an easy no skill insta win pick who keeps the enemy team from moving, shooting and respawning anyways.
Sounds to me like someone adapted.
doomfist secretly created the covid-19
or you know, you could just play McCree
Yeah, both sides adapt. But because these 4 (3 in particular) heroes are so insanely broken, and all about instakilling, they’re effectively interchangable. There almost isn’t even a point in trying to counter Doom in the first place, because a different brand of extremely similar BS will just replace him, which again, goes unchecked until countered.
You don’t get anywhere by countering them. Countered DPS just cycle through these 3-4 until they both think they can outmirror the other. And the one that does, carries their entire team.