It is clear most the doom playerbase has a fixed mindset to where doomfist has to get a stupid amount of buffs to be “decent” and it is clear the majority of the entire playerbase that aren’t doom players don’t agree with anything that isn’t hard nerfs for this character.
Check pinned comment(5-7 buffs 0 nerfs to compensate lol), check other doom players reply’s
Check stream chat during doomfist segment
Check stream chat during doomfist segment, on kenzos channel go to community and scroll through the polls
This isn’t a hate thread but I thought I’d try to open peoples eyes on this topic
Eh, as much as I dislike Doomfist I’m not gonna listen to a streamer who ditched Overwatch to milk Fortnite and decides to make a tier list video after not playing the game for a couple of years.
I think the reason for the hate on doom is thus, broken down into multiple parts;
Doom is a high mobility flank hero.
Players tend to hate these sorts of heroes because they are annoying, heroes such as tracer and sombra are flankers with high mobility
Doom kit is built around vast amounts of CC. Alot of players hate CC. Which is why blizz are almost removing it from existance in OW2
Doom can turn into a tank due to overshields.
Another problem can come from the fact that overshields push him into the tank catagory, and are relitively easy to maintain if you are somewhat competent with doom
Dooms ult is being used as a easy escape
What do I mean by that? Well, how many times have you seen dooms go in deep and use ult as a damage ability, not as often as say, dooms using it to escape if they used all their abilities
Bugs
Doom players use geometry in unintended purposes to get advantages normal players cant get. However, this isnt the problem, the problem occurs that the same people hate on mobility techs of different heroes and want them gone.
Remember shield bash jumping?
Most doom mains spam voicelines non stop
This isnt a problem now for console due to us having squelch chat, but it was an issue
Buddy the vast majority of doom mains have really only been after an uppercut recovery revert. And literally that’s it. No one is after a “stupid amount of buffs” on any kind of regular basis.
No, what’s clear is you don’t know what you’re talking about. Doomfist players ask for like 2 things, a better Ult or Uppercut to be reverted. If this is a “stupid amount of buffs” then you must think the buffs that are asked for to buff other Heroes must be “ludicrous”.
You’re not even trying to open anyone’s eyes, though, based on your first statement being completely wrong already.
Lol I can tell you’ve never faced a really good/high ranked tracer or widow, literally have the ability to change the outcome of the game in their hands.
Literally. I have seen this before from GQO:
"What buffs do I think doom needs?
Passive:
-Shields: 30shields per ability hit to 35 shields
Slam:
-audio volume reduced
-minimum slam damage (25?) you can get a 4 damage indicator slam lol…
Uppercut
-revert the recovery nerf from 0.35 to 0.20
Primary
tigher spread or more damage per pellet
Ult
Land Faster
Reduce how long it takes to build doom ult
Extra
let doom cancel melee animation with ultimate"
I dont know if he meant all at once or maybe one more here or there, but even then the Doom community has become so polarized in thinking he is straight up garbage when he really isn’t. Statistically he is somewhere in the middle of the pack when taking pick rate and winrate together.
Also this. I get he isn’t fun to go against, but this is not a purely casual game. It has been largely centered around comp and owl and he deserves to not be dumpstered when he himself is just decent. Also current Doom already finds it hard to become meta even in seemingly favorable metas. He is fine.
He doesn’t need any more buffs or nerfs after this. However, any future changes should have CC shifted away for something equally as good or even better.
Name a hero for which that isn’t true…the doomfist is bad because hes not as OP as when he had every advantage, wah, whining is SOOO awful.
Everyone knows doomfist is bad for the game, everyone knows he’s broken because he gets too much CC, free dives with ult, tank survivability with shields and so much mobility that if you die as doomfist, its because youre bad with him.
Doom makes me salty AF tbh, but he’s not lighting the world on fire or anything. He’s a solid pick at best.
People just get mad because of how helpless it makes them feel to get combo’d to death. Which is fair. I’m glad he’s getting reworked into a less frustrating form myself, but “Doom OP” isn’t a good take imo.
Wow, an ULT gives an advantage. You’re right Ults should be useless and do absolutely nothing at all to affect the game. Or is it only Doomfist whose Ult should do this?
That’s why Doomfist is the most killed Hero per game on average INE EVERY RANK. Because the GM and T500 Doomfist players, where he is still the most killed Hero, are “bad”. Or you’re just WRONG.
