Doom buffs not enough?

[BoostedBabe-1107]

Yes we did, in masters and gm DF was always being picked. Guess you missed out on it.

[PapaHYON-2822]

As a doom main who has peaked top 500 a couple of times, id say yes these changes are enough.

[Firehawk-11324]

i never understood the point of the doomfist ult nerf. Its an ultimate, why should it not get a kill, and the kill isnt free, there is plenty of ways for you to save an ana/zen that is being ulted. plus after doomfist lands, its very easy to get a quick cc ability in like hook,flashbang, or shield bash since brig can block the damage from meteor strike.

[VOO-21210]

playing against good df players on ptr is annoying. thankfully they buffed soldier so any df that comes yolo flying into my backline is going to get insta shredded.

[Zaltiir-2291]

Yeah like widow is always picked, but doom has much easier counterplay … teamplay

[k3umilo-1229]

doom is fine, his ult needs a slight buff that’s all

[KulstorEbrou-1130]

@JPTrady-1674

Doom is finally getting a buff, thats something so , his cooldowns got a buff instead of 7 7 4 now is 6 6 4, ok thats a pretty decent buff, i see what they did here, they are not buffing any abilities or dmg they are just making him a more consistent hero and making him like a little survival tank , but is this enough???

So what i still dont get is why not get his E abilitiy back, the uppercut 3 sec to .6 (thats an ok nerf cause on the other side that was annoying), but limiting his ability to get out of difficult situations , that just bad. His ultimate is pretty much useless at this point because players complained about his ult being too easy to kill for slow walking heroes/a free kill (ZEN,ANA,SYM,MCREE etc.). Yet we have ults like Riptire and Blade that pretty much guarantee you at least a kill.

For me, those are easier than meteor strike. I can bet that 90% of the time you will get a kill with rip tire or genjis blade . When you hear “FIRE IN THE HOLE” you know at least one of your teammates is dead (its a free kill).

Also, let’s not talk about the range on the riptire, HOLY CRAP. Yet Doom has an ult that even a Torb turret can move out of the way.

It’s sad to see a hero like this, I’m not saying that these buffs are awful, actually these buffs are gonna make Doom a more fast and fluid hero.

So, for me, probably give his ult a little buff or at least make it last longer. Out of all the nerfs, PLS make his E come back

Please copy and paste this for your original post.

I think his ult can kinda work where it is now, but it would need some tweaks, so it feels good. Either of these two would be good to tinker with.

• Ult charge is the same as Tracer’s
• Ult resets his abilities and they remove DF being stunned through the landing animation.

1st suggestion is because the ult feels about as useful/consistent as Tracer’s Ult, but it’s on a charge timer of Genji’s.

2nd suggestion is because it’s on the charge timer of Genji’s ult, so make it actually something to fear even if the ult itself is not likely to kill anything. It’s terrifying that a Doomfist goes all in, Ults, and becomes a flanker.

[koffeekage-11365]

Having him survive and drop ults faster is a better way, he is gonna be like mccree fast i reckon

[Aster-2434]

Not even only in masters, basicialy if you was in plat, and someone with diamond rank was in match with plat players, a lot of time this diamond player picked doomfist at least where i played.

[NiceGenji-1347]

These buffs are enough my friend, all he needs now is ult buffed or reworked

[Ihnami-1515]

The fact that his E works properly again is more of a buff than I ever could have asked for.

[Reith-1609]

Yes, they are enough. You’re not taking into account bugfixes or the global knockback changes. Chill.

[anon38707642]

@Haso-21163

it has no counterplay cos of it’s nature.

This isn’t exactly true. You hear him and then you can bubble as zarya and bubble someone else, ice cube yourself as mei, armor yourself as orisa…i mean there are counters and he’s attackable when he lands.

[BAKEDOG1156-1577]

Since him getting the nerf hammer , he can use all the help he can get. I’d be down for an ult buff

[LilPuddin-11310]

His Ult shouldn’t be a free kill since its utility is also saving his butt while having a similar zoning effect to a rogue Rip-Tire.

What should be changed is his gun. I think his Ult should fully reload his gun AND his ammo should reload 0.1 second faster.

Another option is severely reworking how his gun works to get the point across that it’s a last resort but also a good one if he’s in melee range. So that means a lower fall-off threshold but more base damage, with perhaps less ammo but more ways to reload it (such as using his Ult or killing someone , as well as a slightly faster auto reload and slightly slower firing rate).

[Andough-1183]

His ult should get buffed only if he loses invulnerability upon activating it.

[JPTrady-1674]

yeah i agree with u on the 20m slam but the ult is a joke its so useless offensively u just now used it to escape, nothing else , they really need t tweak his ult

[anon63781830]

Slam and uppercut Cooldown should be reduced to 5 sec.

[JPTrady-1674]

i like the first suggestion cause it takes some time to build up the ult for what it is so making it like tracers pulse bomb would make him more agile and easier to escape difficult situations , second suggestion i like the remove being stunned on the animation cause tahts pretty annoying but teh reset abilities taht may be too much anyway the first suggestion should really be considered

[SidewaysGts-1926]

@BoostedBabe-1107

No doom is fine for now, we dont need a another doom meta

“Another”?

At his best- doom was picked about once every other game by a single team.

This was at GM, which literally represents 1% of the player population.

At lower ranks,(such as gold and plat, which together house about 3/5s of the entire player base) his pick rate at his best was about half of this.

Compared to other heroes like rein and Ana, who even at gold/plat- for the last 6 months have literally been in basically every game-

Often on both sides simultaneously- and you really start putting things into perspective.

Then there’s actual professional play- where Doomfist has basically always been a rarity.

We’ve never had a “Doomfist meta”.

We had a time where he was relevant in the environment created by the Meta. But “doomfist Meta”?

I get it.

People didn’t like Doomfist. I understand why and that’s ok.

But come on now.

As for the topic at hand.

I’d advise against buffing Doomfist for now.

MAYBE a nudge to his ults minimum damage (which can be as low as half a melee if I recall properly)

But I feel the changes to his cooldowns and slam working properly again finally will be substantial changes. Doomfist will probably be in a good spot for where most of the community exists/ but at a minimum we should see where the dust settles after these changes.