Just throwing this out there. I’ve always been pretty adamant on leaving her the way she is. However recently Brigitte being added combined with the buffs to Sombra and Doomfist shes in a bad place. I’ve seen more and more teams running double tank + Brigitte, Sombra’s seem to kill widow faster than she can react now, and Doomfist has always been nearly impossible to deal with for her even before his buff. Does Widowmaker need a small buff to keep up with all these newly added/buffed heroes?
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I use to destroy Sombra’s with my SMG before she got buffed (reduced spread) because my aim is pretty decent. Now I don’t stand a chance unless she spends the time hacking me (silly girl) which gives me a head start shooting her in the head. Sombra’s gun is naturally more faster and accurate than Widow’s SMG which makes no sense to me…
I’ve never had trouble with Doomfist though.
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A good doomfist just jumps around and behind you and is nearly impossible to hit, but things might be different on console.
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I think she’s fine with how she is, maybe just some hook fixes is all I would ask for.
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https://youtu.be/S6yF7rOuOe8?t=15
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The solution to problems on widowmaker is to land your shots. I don’t feel like she needs a significant buff. Maybe some qol changes but that’s it.
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Landing your shots is definitely important, however in the case of Brigitte, landing a head-shot might no longer kill you, and with Sombra you have less time to make the shot, if shes good you wont have any time at all.
Widowmaker is one of the strongest heroes in the game, it’s just much harder to achieve that strength than other heroes. She doesn’t need buffs, they just need to make her slightly more accessible without making her outright stronger.
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I think Widow needs a slight Ultimate and utility buff.
I usually activate infrasight whenever it is available because it has no POTG nor burst damage potential of any kind. Sure you can peek-a-boo snipe those rounding corners, but compared to other Ults, I always ask myself “IS THAT IT???”
I’ve suggested adding some other non-sniper utility buffs to Widow while Infrasight is active – Something like reduced Assault rifle spread and Skill-reset-on-headshot-kill would make Infrasight feel more like an Ult and less like Sonic Arrow 2.0.
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Widow’s ult is relatively weak because her base kit is insanely strong. But just by using it, you’re forcing the enemy to play extremely defensively for the next 15 seconds, which while not PotG worthy, can be very valuable.
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Widow already has a very high skill floor to compensate for her ranged killing power, so I do not think having a non-Ultimate for a Q ability is reasonable. Ultimates are already game-changers for other characters, so I think asking for better assault rifle accuracy and skill resets on head-snipe-kills with Infrasight up isn’t a game breaker.
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To anyone saying that Widowmaker needs a buff in this thread I couldn’t disagree more. At high levels of play Widowmaker is godly levels of power. No matter who it is, hitting any one shot is insanely good and if you don’t counter her, you lose. If your counter is dead then you’re screwed. She also in the OWL is the 3rd most chosen DPS because of how powerful she can be.
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IMO skill requirement doesn’t justify limitless strength, at least not much. Just because it’s hard to take advantage of the strength doesn’t make it any less strong. I’m not saying small buffs to her ultimate would be terrible, just that she can’t have one of the strongest base kits and have a super powerful ult.
We all agree that Widow’s sniping is awesome in the right hands, and that she is garbage when a try-hard-who-can’t-hit instalocks her and refuses to switch.
I think she has room for improvement on her non-sniping properties and Ult. This would lower her skill floor without enhancing her already-good sniping role.
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Please no, she basically already dominates almost all competitive matches by people who can play her well.
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absolutely not.
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I agree there – that’s why I’m making Quality-of-Play upgrade suggestions to Infrasight instead of game-breakers like shield-piercing, insta-kills death beams, etc.
Also given Widow’s precision sniping design, the spray-and-pray assault rifle doesn’t fit her theme. The Infrasight accuracy buff suggestion attempts to correct this without going overboard.
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I agree, your ideas could be a nice change, I’m just stating why I think it’s important to not get carried away with it.
Stacked shields work well against Widow. And Brigitte’s addition will only make her life more difficult.
Widow is a counter to DF (unless he gets close to her). She has all of the mobility to escape him and because he is useless at range, she has a lot of free space
Widow is a mechanical skill based hero. If you are good with her you will destroy teams and carry games. She doesnt need a buff
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