Does torb really needs a buff?

i mean torb was good for over a year now, and im not talking on lower level where he is probably dominating cuz turret doesnt miss and plat players does, he was very good in gm and top500 games, but he got buffed with the armor buffs recently a pretty big buff by his own if i may say and now he is getting buffed in his shotgun dmg?
-why not buff heroes that are hard to play and buff the abilities that are hard to hit, why we keep getting buffs to ez heroes that are not fun to play hero’s that are not very punishing.
-why in order to counter a sniper as a diver i need to dive infront the entire enemy team when the snipers are getting pocketed by 4 people and there is no way ill get healed or much support doing so.
while im gonna get discorded/ sleepet/ stunned/ hooked/ naded / etc…
all while the sniper or the torb is sitting in their confront zone with their all team an still can one shoot me.
-why does this game which is so original fast and changing became slow and static where ur all team is waiting for ur dps to make a mistake just watching their snipers zooming in.
-you will make a mistake if u play dive cuz its punishing to play dive the only mistake u wont make is switch to a 1 shot from a distance hero
-how is playing from far away from the fight should be more rewarding and less dangerous than blinking and perfectly tracking to your enemy head so you can “one shot” a sniper or a support or perfectly getting a dash combo with left click dash melee(btw if u dash into some one for a combo ur gonna get headshoted automatcly doesnt matter if the enemy didnt aim to ur head cuz ur head is pretty much 50% of the hitbox when u dash since the animation is putting genji’s head infront of his body in an ez to manipulate position)
-why should i play all those original heroes which in the patch notes we wont consider the fact that all their abilities are buggy and can mess u up(wall climb dif dash recal and blinks since of ping)

its just heading to the direction of play snipers or lose which is a shame cuz this game is so orignal and fun but the meta is always the stuff that arnt original and not why most players came to play this game for.

i can go on and on like snipers has no off time on abilites that really change their whole kit if a snipers uses an ability he just shot to probably one shot or 2 shot kill if he misses a shot hell get the next one where in divers case if everything is not going near perfect u dead…

i went off topic i know torb doesnt need a buff stop buffing ez to play heroes
thanks if u actualy read the whole thing.

Stop saying bad things about torby.

Torb is love, torb is life.

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If you saw Torb’s right click before and played him a bit, it was obvious that there was no need to ever use it as your left click will always be better. Great buff to him.

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whats the point of the title posing a question when you’re already steadfast in your own answer

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Not true. Left click melts monkeys and hogs. If ur good squishes too, all while being armored, Lucio speed boosted, and 300hp.

If they are gonna nerf Torb it should be with his Overload. I actually really welcome this shotgun change as it felt weightless and unimpactful before.

The reason Torb’s shotgun firemode is lacking is because the accuracy is a bit lacking even for a shotgun, and damage falloff is much too severe to be worth it.

I kid you not, it’s so bad, that even if you’re point blank (ie literally in someone’s face), and if all the pellets hit but don’t headshot it’s still just a waste of ammo. You can test that out in the firing range or against a roadhog.

Increasing the raw damage isn’t going to much at all, and increasing the delay is making a crappy fire mode even worse.

Suggested improvements from current non-experimental: slightly less spread and damage falloff severity, moderate increase in damage falloff distances (mostly maximum damage range/minimum distance before damage falloff occurs).

It’s not so bad considering it nerfs his up close tank busting / shield break spam

He doesn’t need a buff, McCree does though

Doing balance across the board instead of fine tinning every hero individually is a recipe for a disaster.

if going to balance torb, then do just that.

His left click was better than his right click in almost every instance. There’s an argument that he is a bit too strong and should see a nerf somewhere (maybe to his Overload cd or his ult generation) but all of his abilities should be worthwhile to use. Same as when they buffed Reaper’s tp, it was a waste of a button press before even though he was at times a good hero.

by the comments i can see people here just read the title i dont blame u is a long thread but dont just comment if u didnt read the atleast half of the stuff i wrote.

Or Stop buffing damage and give healing output some love. Like give Mercy more healing power or give her a shield while she’s rezzing a tank or something

giving healing power love is only buffing snipers and static heroes since dive wont play with their healers

That’s fair. If people had read your post they’d realise that you’re only pretending to be talking about Torb, and that you’re actually lobbying for Tracer buffs.

Does Tracer really need a buff? No.

Tracer him main, she deserve buff

Anyone who tells you that the shotgun changes are a buff for Torb is just lying to you. Yes, even the YouTubers.

These changes are a net nerf. They ruin so many timing breakpoints for him (especially during overload) and make him less fluid and more vulnerable to being killed before he can dispose of close range targets.

It’s basically a reduction of his TDO during Overload (and shortly after it concludes), and a reduction of his DPS in general (aside from primary fire).

Did you just say torb is not fun to play

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I assume you didn’t read the buff, you talked about “distance heroes” and “comfort zones” when it was his under-performing shotgun they buffed. Seeing as how this is a rant about general torb and snipers, i’l assume you have no idea what your talking about.

Just Imagine a tracer main complaining about shotgun buffs.