There’s a lot of people here speaking for themselves in what they think Mercy is. Some think shes fun. Some think she’s not fun.
This is a question to the dev team. Through your tweaks, nerfs, and the like, do you guys now think that she is a hero that is fun and engaging to play?
I recall back in about 8 months ago during the introduction of the rework where this video on Mercy changes were made:
Jeff mentions how they feel like Valkyrie will make Mercy “more engaging to play” than hiding and waiting for the ultimate, specifically here:
I believe it was this particular update where Her resurrection as an ultimate was announced to be changed, as well as the one of the reasons behind it being things like “people would find it frustrating to have a team wipe only to have Mercy swoop down and erase it” and “people would tell mercy players to go hide so they can wipe on point and get resurrected”. Both of which have been statements that are still used right now when discussing Mercy in general.
So, fast forward. 8 Months later. After the nerfs and the balancing. After the statements of “Mercy is fine” and “Mercy is in a good place right now.” I would love to know what you guys think of her in terms of your previous categories of the hero being “fun and engaging.” This is opinion of course, but do you devs currently still think that she is both fun and engaging?
Feel free to toss this in the Mercy Feedback thread if you don’t wish to answer, but I dunno, just something interesting that I thought I’d ask. Many thanks for reading!
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance. xavvypls
Hate to break it to you, but this is just going to end up in the megathread and won’t get any form of reply or comment. I really appreciate the effort you are putting into getting your voice heard though, I don’t have the determination to keep that up.
If the damage dealers did their job, and killed the healer (which they don’t seem to have a problem doing now, despite her being even more mobile) this would have been a non-issue.
Does it suck to have your ‘ult erased’? Absolutely? Know how to prevent that?
Ya kill the Mercy. First.
But, I digress. We’re in this mess now, so might as well roll up your sleeves and get dirty, eh?
The buffed her mobility and gave her an extra ability. In return did they replace her ultimate which allow her to freely fly through sky and heal/boost teammates.
I’m not a Mercy main, but judging by this should her kit be more fun to play, right? I’m really curious what’s unfun about her current kit.
But he’s right though. Ana is in a worse state than Mercy for much longer. Ana should be addressed first.
Honestly, I think Mercy is a bit of a write-off right now. I think she’s still fun, but obviously way less fun that she was pre-rework, but pre-rework was pretty unhealthy too.
It’s probably why they released Moira when they did. She serves the same purpose as a low skill floor main healer, except they also made Moira a lot more engaging and gave her a skill ceiling. She’s basically who Mercy always should have been gameplay-wise.
So? You talk about Ana in Ana threads and Mercy in Mercy threads.
Its up to the devs to decide who they want to deal with first. Its a simple concept.
As for your question… its her ult. Also not a Mercy main.
In a game where ultimate abilities are supposed to be your ways of turning the tide of battle, of being the “hero” that saves the match Valkyrie falls flat on its face and fails to be an ultimate yet it takes up the ultimate spot.
What is worse is that mercy’s entire passive kit was designed specifically around the concept of building up to the “moment of glory” that the ult is supposed to provide.
With Valkyrie as it currently is it does not provide enough impact, it simply makes your job easier. It’s like taking a smoke break while still doing your job at the same time. You fly around as a spectator holding down a mouse button because trying to res during valk will get you killed and waste easy mode healing time.
Its healing output while in theory is improved in practice its not. Everyone grouping up for the chain beams is ult bait, and Valkyrie cannot outheal any ult that does more then 60 DPS. Which is nearly all the killing capable ults.
Ultimately this results in that her kit is counter intuitive. Her kit builds up to the moment of impact, and the moment of impact does not come. Its like reading the build up, skipping the climax, and going right into the winding down to settle in the end. It just leads to a boring experience where you feel more despair at your inability to do anything then feeling like a Hero who could save the day.
And Res, even with all its nerfs, still feels like her ult. Except now it is handed to you every 30 seconds regardless of personal skill. So a bronze can use it as well as a GM can. When Mass res used to be one of the deciding factors between a good Mercy, and a bad one.
I ain’t a Mercy main, never will be. But, fun is subjective. What’s fun for you, may not be fun for someone else. That’s all I was getting at bud, not trying to attack ya or anything!
I was using ana as an example, there are plenty more heroes that I could bring up.
I’m just saying it’s quite annoying that the community acts like mercy is the only character and should have all the attention, even when other characters need it more.
People who enjoyed a particular hero are more likely to make threads about that hero.
So the people who want those other heroes buffed should make their threads supporting those heroes to be buffed.
The community is not acting like Mercy is the only character and should have all the attention. The Mercy players are simply much more active then the players of other heroes who do need attention.
As much as I want Bastion for instance buffed I am not going to actively try to derail other threads to talk about how the subject of the thread should be ignored because Bastion has been stuck in F-tier ever since his implementation into the game. If I want to talk about Bastion getting buffs I can go make a thread to talk about it if I feel like making a thread to talk about it.
The community is not some monolithic thing that can only talk about one or two major subjects at a time, it is a collection of sub communities that build up around each of the characters. Some of them are simply more active then others.
And Blizzard has not been helping the situation by using the megathread as a garbage bin and ignoring the Mercy players by refusing to communicate with them. So naturally the Mercy players are getting more desperate to be heard because the megathread is so enormous that anything that goes into it is effectively silenced because Discourse as a forum type was not built with such massive threads in mind.
I still have fun with Mercy. The only think she lacks is a consistent way to provide direct damage as well as healing.
I do miss being able to mass-rez but I understand how broken that was. Her current rez still serves as an advantage. I think she maybe needs 1 more thing in her kit.
? Valkyrie? Just so you know.
The base movement is still the same, apart from the GA jump. And it seems to be way better than the Val movement as well and you have to hide now all the time with her. I truly don’t understand what is more fun about a way less skillful and active gameplay.
But pls tell me. How is her movement now more fun and why can you ignore the fact that she requires way less skill because of that?
The fact that her Ult requires zero thinking and that her new res, as well as Valkyire, force you to hide. Next is that Mercy can only be described as the sidekick. She has little to no playmaking potential and needs her team for literally everything.
She has nothing special anymore and the special thing she had was dumped down to a frustrating and contradictory E ability.
The only good thing is her, from the rework not touched, basse kit.
Many thanks for reading!
