Recently Samito put out a video claiming Widow is OP and ruins the game and that it’s unfair that Hanzo lost his one shot in comparison to widow.
I think Hanzo needs his one shot back personally but anyways…
Widow is an iconic character and imo Characters that have been a staple of the series since the beginning should not be getting major changes.
Continuing to rework and do a variety of different changes that gut the original identities of heroes is not the move and makes the game feel less like overwatch.
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Hey, if anybody is iconic, it’s our queen Symmetra. Move aside, Widow.
This is awkward, because I personally wish for one-shots to disappear completely.
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I love how everyone is like: widow is unkillable.
how you lose a 1v1 against widow?
Especially with current tanks?
dude sigma bap stand next to her and I can’t touch her.
Didn’t knew widow are 3 heroes.
so if we nuke bap and sigma is widow balanced? yes? how come? i thought she is the problem. lol.
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you can’t tell me what to do.
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if the untouchable hero thats always getting personal bodyguards like she’s prime Michael Jackson cant one shot she is less of an oppressive issue
So many heroes lost their much less problematic identities
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5v5 made getting picks so much more valuable than in 6v6, so the fact she can just delete DPS and Supports from any range is insanely powerful. I’m glad we’re finally talking about this. She is problematic, and should be reworked into something more interesting than a bare bones sniper that holds games hostage.
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true, but we could also make it so she can die even with these bodyguards.
all you have to do is make it harder to protect her.
that would only hit high ranks because low ranks don’t peel anyway.
ane how I see it, thats only a high rank issue where the team trusts their widow.
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Not only did they make picks more valuable, they made it easier specifically for characters like Widow to get with the amount of Barriers and similar mitigation being reduced significantly in a game.
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I just report widow and hanzo when I see them, just in case they are cheating cause a lot of those playing the hero are those picked by cheaters.
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idk every time a widow is doing too good they get a personal bap or kiri slave, and with the sombra changes you cant even kill her before you die
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I mean, it sucks, but should at least take 3 heroes if they work together. given its easier to chill in one spot and let your widow do all the work she’s limited by sightlines. where map design can help probably the most.
i mean if widow still dies even with double pocket and a tank peeling for her… how do you plan on playing the hero without a personal tank and 2 heal-slaves?
I try to find a solution for both sides. keeping her somehow playable but beatable.
She is also my first target when there is one as the risk is to high and usually people ignore her thinking she’s bad anyway.
I Personally would change mine or add Atleast a time limit on beeing scoped. sitting on max charge removes the downtime completely.
not easy especially when other heroes fill niches she would Land in if nerfed in dmg.
I’m sorry, but Widow has been a huge balance problem for the entirety of her existence. Everything Samito said in his video about her are things that have been true for years. Even in OW1. Everyone seems to forget the double sniper meta.
This character will completely hold your games hostage if she’s even half decent and being very well protected. She overly rewards skill.
I think the devs are scared to remove her identity as “the sniper” if they take away her oneshot. Tbh Widow’s oneshot is even more crucial to her identity than any of the other heroes Samito mentioned, so the devs are definitely doing everything in their power to keep it. Reworking all the maps, changing widow’s hp…
…And as much as I hate most of his takes, I kinda agree with Samito when he says they’re being a little biased. Like…They had no problem completely deleting OW1 Orisa from the game. They changed her entire kit and even her personality!!! I don’t see why Widow should be the only hero to be exempt from that when her kit is just as problematic.
If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. Just give us the Overwatch Mirrored version of widow and let’s call it a day. We can make it a whole redemption event and give her a lore reason for no longer being a sadistic oneshotting menace.
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I don’t think you have much to worry about, OP, considering that they went ahead and reverted Widow’s fall-off nerf and didn’t replace it with anything else to make her more tolerable to play against. It’s pretty clear she’s here to stay.
Widow 1 shot has always been powerfull, borderline OP since OW1 launch. It just we had more ways to deal with a widow back them.
Widow has gotten so many indirect buffs over the years.
- The removal and nerfing of shields made widow better
- The removal and nerfing of overhealth abilites made widow better
- The removal of a tank made widow better
- The global HP increases made widow better by making rveryone elses TTK go up
- The HP regen passive benefited widow arguably the most.
ect.
When you keep nerfing and removing the things that kept widow in check issues will arrive.
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Give Hanzo uber-thin arrows, and then bring back his one shot. I wouldn’t even mind having him be able to one-shot 300hp heroes if those 300 HP heroes were scaled up properly, like they should’ve been in season 9 with 333.33 HP. It should still take a fully charged arrow, though.
Widow does not need to be touched and, in fact, is pretty weak when it comes to how little HP she has. One body shot from 90% of the roster forces you to duck into cover and remain out of the fight for a long time, unless you’re being pocketed.
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Reaper, Torb and Mei do NOT need 333 (or 325hp) 
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I’d argue the same could be said about 200 HP heroes getting 250 or 150 HP heroes getting 200. Upscaling by flat intervals of 50 is less beneficial the higher the character’s health is.
That’s why the season 9 “buffs” were a complete and utter failure.
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One Sombra main has been telling me it’s more impressive for Sombra to kill Widow than the other way around, because Widow will have teammates peel for her.
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So isn’t a good Widow being pocketed by her team peak Overwatch?
A player with superior mechanical skills in the lobby being protected by good teamwork 
if they have both skill diff and team diff dont they deserve to win?
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