When or why not yet?
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But why does Dva need nerfed?
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This is what I’m asking, because Winston does everything Dva does but better
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Show me the replay of this juggernaut dva
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She is currently invalidating a majority of DPS heroes due to the armor changes, matrix buff, and missile change. She’s not a free win but literally anything that isn’t hypermobile struggles or is outright throwing against her. She’s making counter dive or dive mirror must pick and that’s not fun
Just because DPS Doomfist had periods of being non-meta didn’t invalidate the fact that he was 0% fun to fight against, this goes for DVA in her current iteration. She makes any non-mobile DPS unfun to fight against her unless theyre in a counter comp with Sigma
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Like exactly. Diva 3.5 sec standing there and taking no dmg at all is huge misstep. if she had for example a destroyable barier. Okay… but she is there, no dmg, than rockets, bum bum shotguns, dive dmg and ded - repeat
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Idk, i just lost on a team with 3 dvas (mystery heroes).
Just takes some focus fire.
Probably the fact that she’s unkillable but with the ability to also be a backline assassin on par, if not flat out better than doomfist.
They’re both broken.
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I’m expecting DM to get tweaked in the S12 patch. Probably haphazardly too, knowing Blizz’s track record.
Imo, as long as Zarya counters DvA as hard as she does, DvA needs no nerfs. If anything, she could use a buff against beams, cuz skill being equal, its nearly a free win for Zar against DvA.
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Yes but for who is this state of Diva/Zarya fun or enjoyable?
If only people knew what off angles were… she can only dm in a cone
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Keeping a hero completely braindead levels of busted against the rest of the hero roster because of how they get countered by ONE hero, is… about something I’d expect from the balance team from how dumb it is.
Yall forum mfs really gotta move on from this “off angles” argument. If you take an off angle against dva, cool you’re now separated from your team and the dva can freely dive bomb you. A good dva is hoping someone is dumb enough to go out their separated and take an off angle lol.
We’re also acting like half her HP isn’t the freshly omega buffed armor. Even if you do take an off angle you’re one person shooting that armor. You’re not doing ANYTHING to it.
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And it would be an eeeasy nerf since they only have to reduce the matrix time, which is the main problem with her right now
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There won’t be any changes now until 20th August when new patch goes live sadly 
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DVA is a bit overtuned but defintely not the unkillable monster people are making her out to be. Between the buffs at mid season, and start of season everything in her kit is stronger than last season so the changes stand out a lot more than other tanks. The only part that really needs to be nerfed is her DM. She can still be easily killed with focus fire especially if you can force DM before getting close.
There are 2 main things that seem to frustrate people, the first being her being able to delete isolated targets. With the increased damage on missiles and boop, and tighter spread she can do over 250 dmg before her boosters run out making her much better than winston or doom for fast picks. Honestly i feel like this is how it always should have been and its a skill issue if you are repeatedly caught isolated and out of position.
The second issue is that with the increased DM time, you can now use it aggressively to stop enemies from being healed instead of saving it for specific cooldowns. If the enemy has support with projectile based healing(bap, ana, kiriko, etc…) you can guarantee the tank will be without heals for most of the fight, and if rotate cooldown with ana can get up to 12 seconds with no healing with should be a guaranteed win.
Have you played the game in the month?
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She does way too much damage bro. That’s the problem. Why can she hold DM and missile at the same time
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Yes she does a lot of damage, but it requires 2 cooldowns and have to be right in their face to get value so as long as your team is playing correctly thats easy to punish. Honestly i havent had any issues killing DVA even with changes unless team was braindead, or wasting cooldowns and heals durin DM
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Matrix’s visual effect is NOT indicative of the actual hitbox, its a massive box that almost goes down to the mech’s knees and is as wide throughout as the furthest end of the cone visual.
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I mean you could say that about any hero. I have no problems with X as long as myself and all my teammates play perfectly. She does way too much damage it’s pretty obvious.
I thought about it for 2 seconds and Rein can’t hold shield and fire strike. Why can Dva hold DM and missile? This woulda been easy hot fix 3 weeks ago while they figure out a real solution for the next patch
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