Please nerf this, there’s no cooldown in discord orb and is painful to play against zennyatta as a tank. too damage, this is not fun
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I also don’t like his unlimited Kickboop, that should also go.
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I don’t really like his damage either, that should go too.
Let’s just make Zenyatta a healbot.
You know what actually, his healing orb is yucky too. It denies me too many kills when I’m dragonblading.
He’s a monk, so he should just sit there and die until he slowly builds up ult.
Yknow, now that I think about that ult…
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Exactly, Zen is a menace while he should be inert and peaceful. He must transcend into lore only, like any great monk does.
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Let take this in other ways, he just helps you rest in piece fast.
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What if it was only 15% against tanks and still 25% against other targets. That way zen can still defend himself but tanks don’t get blown up
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I’ve seen a lot of suggestions. Flat-out-nerf, having to reapply it more often, 25% for only Zen (some other % globally), changing orbs like Sonic Arrow, deleting Zen from the game, reworking it…
ZenAna have kind of been busted since launch but since they’re so popular after Mercy, IDK how much will actually happen to them. Zen’s design is also so intrinsically humble you can’t really do much to him without reworking him. I say force him to walk.
Zen needs some changes.
- Give it a 5 sec CD on discord application.
- Zen hitting discorded enemies should make a healburst originating at Zen (or his Orb of Harmony target) for like 15 HP
OR - Zen hitting a discorded target makes an AoE damage burst around the discord target.
- Give him a new sub-ability for his Charged Volley, where he can hold the volley full charged, it becomes a shield that automatically shoots on enemies coming too close to him.
- Orb of Harmony should grant damage reduction.
- Make Transcendence cleanse on every tick.
I’d try 20% first on tanks, but this is a good (if not one of the better) suggestion.
Though my only issue against Zenyatta is if I’m playing as Junkerqueen or Rammatra who sit at 450hp without using their stat modifiers.
This is just my experience both playing as and against Zenyatta too.
Zenyatta is working as Intended if you ask me, but, if we’re gonna go that route and nerf his discord, buff his mobility at least so he isn’t a sitting duck. I don’t mind him having good damage, I’m sure a lot of healers are with me in saying it would be nice to be able to effectively defend ourselves.
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We’ve had discord at 20% back in ow1 and it was still strong. As a zen main i think 15% appeases the tank players because i agree on tank playing into zen is aids. You just get deleted. Discord to me though has always been fair considering zen has a massive hitbox and no mobility so if you can isolate him and dive him he’s screwed. Problem is it takes some mild coordinating to pull off which usually fails on the ladder.
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Nope. Leave Zen as is please. Tanks are bonkers.
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No thank you, leave Zen alone please - he needs it considering how easy it is to target him as many of the heroes and he can’t exactly get away from them that easy - or at all.
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Quote one person on the forums who has ever said they want their support hero to be unkillable. I’ll wait. Quote one person on the forums who has ever said they want their support to be dominant. I’ll wait. What people want is their hero to be viable, having a unique utility or a strong ability is ok, but, it shouldn’t automatically make the hero better than every other hero, being better in certain circumstances is ok, being better altogether is not, and that’s blizzards balance problem, but let’s not nerf heros into the ground either. Zen is pretty weak without mobility and discord.
almost every supp player on the forum wants a buff for supp currently the most affect game and are the most op role
zen has no mobility it’s true but you know that you can make many changes to the character not only nerf to make the character good but also not unplayable
let’s say that with dps e.g. widow it depends on the map even though widow is still need nerf because on maps where you play almost nothing can be done and a similar problem has zen and such zen can be played on any map because it is that would make it quicker
supp got too much buff (except mercy/moira/lucio because these 3 characters are well balanced although lucio is a bit annoying with pushbacks)
If a character is doing 4vs5 fast, it means they are unbalanced
when you see zen, most of the time you don’t need to play because you’ll only get mad that you die in 1 second
btw reaper is made to make life a bit difficult for tanks but he is fair because you can fight him where zen that gives discorb orb destroys tanks completely
or you have to give a buff to reaper and genji so that they can make life a bit more difficult for supp again because only tracer can do something the rest of the flankers don’t work well
No. That’s definitely staying. Get over it.
His discord orb needs to be addressed. that’s an actual problem. That we can discuss.
I hate zenyatta, let’s remove him from the game
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It’s insane that he’s been allowed to have discord orb WITHOUT a cooldown.
I absolutely promise you nearly anything you love about Overwatch can be completely taken away and replaced with a worse sequel, so you’d better watch it.
We’ve been trying. Either devsnolisten or devsnodoanythingfast.
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Honestly something like this is the best idea I’ve seen, although the numbers might need adjusting. Discord is really important for Zens personal survivability and his team value, but it does absolutely make tanking a dang pain in the butt, borderline impossible against certain comps.