It’s been like 3+ major PTR updates now and she is still in the same spot she always was. Just a troll pick. Even if I do well my team says I’m throwing and the enemy team will not hesitate to call me hot garbage after they clearly misplayed. She can be out damaged by nearly every tank and support, her teleporter is slow and the range is nowhere near enough, and her beam is a laughable excuse for a primary fire.
I do not think she is bad. I just think she is not where she could be in terms of viability. We have shifted through many metas and she has never been part of any of them. I just want her to be a hero like everyone else.
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I think a number of heroes including Symmetra are on a “lost cause” list. As long as they don’t create problems for OWL, they will collect dust forever.
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She’s plenty viable in many situations. In comp she’s great on defense against most comps. As much as these forums hate seagull, he demonstrates just how good Symmetra can be on defense on many maps even at the highest level.
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Sym is currently needed as a counter to goats.
Goats comp just walks through Sym wall and kills Sym. Counter to goats needs to be able to pose threat. Symmetra can only spam and stall for a bit.
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My problem is she doesn’t need much to be in a good place.
She just has a kit where everything has a long lead in time to be good, with no survivability to keep her in a fight long enough to reach her full potential. Syms theoretical damage is terrifying. If you have ever been fortunate to have three well placed sentries and a full charge beam you will find yourself able to rip through the extra team.
I feel she either needs a small health boost so she has the survivability to match her kit design, or less wind up time for literally her entire kit so that she can be a threat from the start of a fight
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False.
Goats have no way of getting on highground.
But they can get on the control point.
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Symmetra is fine. She just takes a lot more skill now and most Sym mains lack the mechanical skill to use her effectively.
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she got a significant fix at Winter Wonderland or are we going to erase that from our collective memory?
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And that is not a problem.
What point are you trying to make? That Symmetra can kill a member of goats from high ground?
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I have played Sym 3.0 at the masters level and have played her SIGNIFICANTLY more than Sym 2.0 and 1.0. I usually have around a 60% (that is probably too high but it’s what I see when I press tab in-game) accuracy with her primary fire. I refuse to believe that Symmetra mains have just refused to “become skilled” after all this time. Sym 3.0 has been out for a while now, Symmetra complaints are not coming from a knee jerk reaction from a change that is a week old. I really don’t care about my aim but Sym 3.0 forced me to learn it. “Lacking mechanical skill” is not the reason people want Blizzard to look into her, it is because she has and has ALWAYS had many MANY issues with her kit. You only have like, 43 minutes on Sym in QP. Many other people have hundreds of hours in comp and other modes. I hate to be the gatekeeper but I just can’t take your comment seriously when you barely play the hero the thread is about. I can’t tell if it’s because you actually think she is fine or just wants all the Sym threads to stop since you obviously don’t care what happens to her. 
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Symmetra before rework - close range hero with no self-sustain
Symmetra after rework - close range hero with no self-sustain
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I don’t know why they can’t lower her charge up time by 0.1 seconds so it would be 1.5, which is 3 seconds to full charge. She also has lots of bugs that still need fixing and needs lower cast times.
Before rework she had Shield Gen that was infinite if not destroyed and gave her 75extra health, she had a Photon Barrier to protect her, every 10 seconds.
Now she has a TP that takes two seconds to deploy. No photon barrier outside her ULT.
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Please fix her alt fire. It’s terrible, just dreadful. I almost died to baby D.Va today because it takes so long to charge up and has such a long travel time that she kept avoiding it. Splash damage barely managed to save me. Just fix that one issue, let her charge up slightly faster and let it travel slightly faster. SLIGHTLY people, I am not asking for hitscan here.
Sym has so many problems that people just refuse to believe exist.
Sym a DPS has the lowest burst damage in the game tied with Winston.
- Moria 1s = <100 damage Orb ( 0.5s cast time ) + RMB
- Sym 1s = < 60 damage with primary
- Sym 1s = 0 damage with RMB
Turret is not counted as it has travel time + setup time. Which means it takes longer than 1s.
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I can agree that sym has so many problems.
And it feels as if the dev’s took the working parts of her kit from 2.0 and just deleted them and gave her a new kit that sucks even more to appeal to the dps players.
OOH LOOK, NEW HIGHER DPS, YOU LIKE RIGHT?!
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No?
That a team on highground will have the advantage over the goats team.
Sym is the only hero who puts her team on highground.