People have derailed the topic, please delete it mods.
3 words. While - You - Wait
3 words - queue as <support/tank>
while you wait does not solve the problem of long dps queue times
they want to dps though.
I recommend QP Classic personally, but there is a queue time issue
The only thing Blizzard could do so more people play tanks, in this current environment, is to nerf the damage of the DPS role. Get rid of all the GOATS buffs, and tweak them with 2/2/2 in mind.
Outside of that, the queue times for DPS role will be ever increasing.
Those dps needed those buffs.
The only dps that is definitely OP is Hanzo, nerfing them all would be unbalanced.
The game is being balanced with 222 in mind.
I think we just need more tanks. Less weird ones (less horse robots and talking gorillas, more ninjas).
Theres just something infuriating about losing freedom in switching to any hero. I was a flex player and I used to play tank and supports for 80% of my games. Now I just queue as dps most of the time and play some low system resource hand-tie game while I wait.
I blame the queue time and my depravity entirely on blizzard.
If they needed them, then why didn’t it kill GOATS, or even slow it down? That’s right, because the problem was caused by too much damage, not too little.
I am not speaking about how fun or not it would be to play a damage dealer. I am speaking directly toward the fact that people, the majority of them, will not play a tank with the absurd amounts of damage in the game at the moment. Queue times went from an average of 7 minutes to find a game as a DPS to 10 minutes average. This is a direct result of Blizzard screwing over people who want to play actual tanks.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
It has more than one Major issue … an other would be “Switch? I didn’t wait 10min to play a DPS I don’t want to play!”
There are several things that could be changed aside from what is noted here that singularly or in combination could create more interest in playing tanks and/or supports
If they needed them, then why didn’t it kill GOATS, or even slow it down?
Because GOATS was a really good comp.
Did McCree not need buffs? Junkrat? I mean GOATS or no GOATS, a lot of dps sucked, it was a time when almost all of them were regularly called “f-tier”
I am speaking directly toward the fact that people, the majority of them, will not play a tank with the absurd amounts of damage in the game at the moment
It feeds my Sigma gameplay and I don’t feel any issues on Reinhardt except against Hanzo. After the barrier patch, I decided I’m a barrier tank main.
I think we just need more tanks.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
I still think its the best solution.
but there is a queue time issue
The only thing Blizzard could do so more people play tanks, in this current environment, is to nerf the damage of the DPS role.
There are several things that could be changed aside from what is noted here that singularly or in combination could create more interest in playing tanks and/or supports
Well by all means: please share. Its a tough problem.
From the moment they started playing around with role queue I was of the opinion that we are going to need two queues in ranked: one with role lock, one without.
And so far how it turned out just reconfirmed this opinion.
Ok guys, I was just making a JOKE because I do watch cooking videos when I queue, we don’t need to redo the whole queues are too long debate.
It feeds my Sigma gameplay and I don’t feel any issues on Reinhardt except against Hanzo.
After the barrier patch, I decided I’m a barrier tank main.
That’s great for you. Now are you going to invite how ever many friends you have to Overwatch so we can bring back the rest of the tanks who switched roles or left the game. How you feel is irrelevant to the fact that the DPS queue time went up by almost 40% in one patch.
Out of all the solution, toning down the damage dealer roster is, so far, the only one Blizzard hasn’t tried. They could nerf tanks again, then maybe you will like them more, and the DPS queue time can get pushed to 15 minutes average.
What about a premium queue service? For only $15/month, you get queue priority for DPS.
DPS queue time went up by almost 40% in one patch.
Where did you get that figure from?
Out of all the solution, toning down the damage dealer roster is, so far, the only one Blizzard hasn’t tried
All they’ve really done is “while you wait”
They could nerf tanks again
Tanks have been getting buffed for the last two patches. Hog got another shot, and that’s been awesome. Zarya’s grenades are better, Sigma is better at cycling his defenses, Winston got 100 more barrier hp, and Reinhardt is finally awesome like how he felt when I first started playing in season 8.
They could buff D.va and Winston so they’re viable and strong, that’d really help.
All they’ve really done is “while you wait”
…and the bribes
Where did you get that figure from?
You get that figure from Blizzard’s game.
Before the patch, DPS queue times were <7 minutes, all day every day, with the exception of the very high ranks.
Now, when you look at the queue times DPS says <10 minutes, all day every day, same center majority of rank.
It doesn’t take a whole lot of calculation to figure out why. The support queue times haven’t moved.
Tanks have been getting buffed for the last two patches.
Reinhardt was straight buffed. Buffs he didn’t really need, and a barrier nerf that wasn’t necessary either. None of the other tank changes were for ____. It was all smoke and mirrors to reduce the barrier health without too much complaint.
Regardless of what you think, fewer people today are playing the tanks, and it isn’t getting any better.
I love the bribes as a tank main. I also hate the bribes as a tank main because I’ve seen so many times the phrase “Don’t really care, only came here for the free lootbox”.