Deflect is objectively overpowered

Must be nice to have 4 seconds of invincibility frames on the hero with the highest mobility in the game. Because it wasn’t already easy enough to avoid damage with your broken double-jump hitbox.

Best ult in the game? Nope, not enough for genji. Let’s make him a shield tank with deflect while we’re at it.

j-just dont shoot it lol!

why does genji need de facto i-frames? why does he need i-frames exactly? I’m ABSOLUTELY sick of genji. At least I can shoot doomfist.

Let me also quote a good post from this thread

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attack the other side of him

cc him with the many stuns in the game

use an ability that goes through deflect

bait out deflect with trash damage and save your abilities to burst him as it runs out

and of course, don’t shoot him

plenty of counterplay

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Well thats a record, opening up a thread with a lie.

You mean the one that mostly locks his aerial momentum, the one that’s extremely floaty on descent therefor easy to track, the one you’ve probably seen a billion times and should recognize it’s apex by now? That same double jump?

Anyway, Deflect hasn’t been “Overpowered” since it’s hitbox got corrected. And even then it wasn’t Overpowered, it was just stupid and made no sense.

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yeah cuz genji is just gonna stop looking at you

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He doesn’t have iframes, it’s surprisingly easy to flash around the box.

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you have five other people on your team that can shoot genji

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if it takes 6 people to kill genji while deflect is up, deflect is overpowered

it doesn’t though

if your team is useless enough that not a single one can hurt a genji, you and your team deserve to lose

genji isn’t even good in this meta outside of nanoblade lmao and he wasn’t even that strong in the previous metas, so stop complaining about a hero that’s not even that strong and learn how to counter a hero that’s been in the game since the very start and has been given harsher and harser counters and forms of counterplay after people complained nonstop

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I mean, Mei also has complete invincibility with 0 counterplay outside of “wait it out”, and she can already create entire walls to not only block enemy fire, bit enemy movement as well.

And Doomfist does the same thing as an ult, except it also gets kills and garuntees potential safety.

Also D.vas matrix is a thing.

Also Sombra can just teleport out of danger, or walk about completely invisible.

Point being: Genji isn’t some outlier. This is how the game was built.

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Or your team’s just bad…very bad.

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I don’t think deflect is ever gonna be touched again since we’ve a lot of CC abilities in the game.

I would like the ability to have a cast time but at this point I don’t think even that is needed.

reinhardts sheild is OP boys!!! pack up

btw double jump makes you easier to hit not harder. Jumping in general makes you easier to hit. Its why you dont jump in any 1v1

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I wish we could melee through deflect.

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a lie peddled by people who dont play the game

watch any GM game, everybody is jumping around like rabbits. IF IT MADE THEM EASIER TO HIT, WHY DO PEOPLE IN GM JUMP ALL THE TIME

pharah has the highest mobility in the game not genji

You dont jump in 1v1s. I would know. I play widow hs ffa more than anything else and jumping is a cardinal sin. Go into a widow hs ffa and jump around. Have fun dying.

nah. pharah cant do much. Mercy has the highest mobility in the game, with her guardian angel tech.

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Deflect used to be worse with a giant invisible hitbox

ah ye i forgot mercy, also with valk and stuff she defo ahs the highest mobility in the game

no

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A truth peddled by people who don’t just spray and pray and instead can actually aim.

Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink.

They actually AD spam far more than they jump, hell, everyone who understands the games mechanics and how momentum works knows that AD spam mixups are infinitely superior to momentum locking, easy to track jumps. Genji’s included.

https://streamable.com/qaa9q

That’s slowed down by a lot, jumping is suicidal compared to AD spam. :roll_eyes:

PS: There are no shortage of players who don’t understand the best methods of dodging, movement mixups, and general ways to avoid damage without abilities in EVERY tier of play. And even if they do understand it, a lot of times people panic and outright forget to execute when they should and just do the next best thing, they press one button that can end up getting them killed much easier.

PPS: Jumping isn’t always bad, it’s fine in small doses and movement mixups, or when you’re not outright being focused. But spamming it will get you killed by anyone competent.

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