We currently have three abilities that counter projectiles: Sigma’s Kinetic Grasp, Genji’s Deflect, and D.va’s Defense Matrix. But while Sigma and Genji can block a hook with their ability, D.va’s defense matrix can’t, even though the hook is clearly a projectile. For consistency, D.va should be able to block hooks with defense matrix.
(She should also be able to block Brigitte’s whip shot since it runs on the same logic but pushes rather than pulls).
Hooks are a projectile. They’re a thrown object. Why shouldn’t D.va be able to eat them? No tank (other than Roadhog himself) is completely incapable of defending against Roadhog’s hooks (Rein/Orisa/Winston/Sigma have barriers, Zarya can bubble herself, and Wrecking Ball can move fast enough to avoid hooks).
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I agree that there should be logical consistency. Either DM should block it or both Sigma and Genji should lose the ability to. That said, you allow Hog to hook them with no defense that might be a serious knock to them.
Every barrier in the game stops projectiles, too. That includes hook. Mei’s wall also stops projectiles. That includes hook. You have an Orisa profile pic. You have both a barrier and fortify to stop hook.
or hook should have less range
D.Va would counter Hog way too hard and send him straight to the bottom of troll pick-tier with no way out if she could block hook with matrix. This is a terrible idea.
I think sigma should lose the ability to block hook instead.
Except that D.va has very limited matrix, and a 2 second cooldown after using it, plenty of window for a hook. By that logic, everyone who doesn’t have a beam attack should be sent to troll-pick tier by D.va eating their stuff.
One is based on gravity/momentum, another is based on literal deflection & the last is a defense system that absorbs projectiles. DM should not block hook. If DM can’t eat the hook she shouldn’t be able to block it.
I think this hook is OP tbh. The range is too much. Most obnoxious CC in the entire game. It is annoying how easily Hog can de-mech you.
A good D.Va will manage her matrix properly and use it only when necessary. That’s not to say she can possibly block every single hook, but between blocking the hook, blocking the follow up shot if the hook lands, and the fact that Hog will sometimes miss his hook will drop his effectiveness low enough to send him to the dumpster.
This logic does not apply to everyone because the hook is basically everything for Hog. If you’re not landing them then you’re dead weight. This isn’t the same as blocking something like a firestrike or a Moira orb.
I think the logic lies in that defence matrix isn’t physical, i.e it’s not an interactive object in the game world. It’s a box that’s hollow, with the property of removing projectiles from the game.
While Sigma and Genji have abilities that are physically represented in the gaming world.
Talk about nerfing hog is pretty crazy. He’s one of the worst heroes in the game and has been for 3 years and always will be. Hog is maybe the most countered hero in the entire game. He can’t even stay meta in bunker, he lost out to dva
Halt hook is dumb. Yes.
But orisa hog is not going to be meta anymore now that rein and zar are good again, and sigma is basically just hog but harder to counter.
I agree Hog doesn’t need nerfs, but come on, this is plain false.
Actually sigma was designed to be a bunker Counter so him deflecting hook makes sense
Defense Matrix does NOT ‘absorb’ projectiles. Dva is SHOOTING them down. Too many people assume she absorbs them just because it became popular to say that she ‘eats’ them.
So how is a meathook somehow not a projectile she can shoot down? She can shoot down blasts of sound, giant walls of fire, and a whole minigun’s barrage, but somehow can’t shoot down a meathook.
I agree with you man, it doesn’t make any sense that she’s unable to shoot down a hook but able to shoot down near anything else
Effectively, in game it does.
For balance reasons it doesn’t exactly make sense for Hogs hook to be “shot down”. It’s part of him. Would it be damaged? Would it not be usable anymore? He doesn’t sit there and repair his hook to be used again. Every other projectile she can “shoot down” is destroyed. It’s gone. If she can’t destroy the hook, it shouldn’t be stopped by defense matrix. Same reason it can’t stop the boulder.