Hah. Nope. It really has been that long. And that’s exactly the problem: It takes so long for anything to get done. Broken heroes stay broken for so long, so the game is permanently dreary.
Widow’s problem isn’t her damage, it’s that she can get huge damage without full charge, charges quickly and sits outside falloff range and can escape every dive easily while doing that much damage.
Can you stop lumping Hanzo and Widow together? And Brig/Torb wouldn’t be one shots because armor, so no.
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Isn’t every other DPS in the game a free kill to her? if we dare to step out of a shield she might even hit a bodyshot that can easily be finished by anyone in her team.
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Nope.
Even if you are not paying attention, Widow still has to land skill shots.
Hello, world’s worst Widow here. Her shots aren’t that hard to land…
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It annoys me too, Hanzo isn’t even a real sniper and positions totally differently from widow and has totally different reasons for being so strong. Hanzo deals out massive amounts of damage while being in a split/flank position. Widow positions wherever she wants (most often outside of falloff) and clicks head.
People trying to constantly tie them to each other is shows a lack of understanding why they’re so strong.
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Wait, so if Hanzo gets a headshot, you don’t die now?
I’m pretty sure that’s not true…
If you think you’re the worst widow, I’d like to invite you to spectate me sometime, because honey, you don’t even know what bad is. Your potg’s are great, you’re good, just accept it. It’s okay!
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I beg to differ
That title is reserved for me
Jokes aside, my point was that aiming is the easiest part of playing Widow (no fall-off, no bullet drop, no windage, no spread, pure hitscan… literally point n’ click.)
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Can’t wait for the nerfs to hit then watch Blizzard buff them the wrong way. lol
A lot of high ranking players have complained about Widowmaker. I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed her somewhat to make her less oppressive. The problem with Widowmaker is that you need a Widowmaker yourself to counter her. There really isn’t anything else to do about it. But maybe 222 and Sigma will make Widow worse.
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Talk about bias lol.
Remove headshots for Hanzo and give Widowmaker fall off. That’s how you level the playing field
He’s saying if you implemented the nerf he’s suggesting, Hanzo wouldn’t be able to OHKO the 250 HP heroes
I think overall it’s reasonable, though. Despite the hysterical doomsday predictions by some, they would retain most of their value on the high end as they could still bip squishies, and it’d free up room to bring up their skill floors without just absolutely busting them at the top end. It’d give other DPS a better chance to shine.
Yeah but that’s the thing; most people CAN’T just ‘point and click’. Just like how if you play Mercy and you’re very good at paying attention to your positioning and gamesense and managing your teammates vs. a Mercy that is not good at focusing on more than one thing at a time, you’re going to be inherently rewarded more for being a better Mercy, because you HAVE that skill that Mercy needs in order to be a good Mercy. That’s kind of how it works.
You don’t get rewarded for skillsets you don’t have. That guy on my team that always plays genji and can’t seem to figure out the basic concept of timing? He’s never going to be an amazing Genji, because he can’t figure out what Genji needs in order to be successful, he cannot do that thing.
Widowmaker, if you can point and click fast enough and know your sightlines, and have enemies that aren’t smart enough to use the buildings and shields and map geometry to accommodate for you? Sure it’s going to be a buffet; because you have that skillset and deserve to get rewarded for it. That’s literally how it works.
Again, that wasn’t the entirety of my point. Widow has almost nothing that makes it “skillful” to aim, such as…
…and she gets heavily rewarded for the trivially easy mechanics required as long as a player can muster basic 4head clicking. I have very little time on Widow (hence my “world’s worst Widow” joke) but due to the fact that I can competently click foreheads I get huge value. Playing Soldier, I have to work twice as hard to get the same value I can get out of Widow with the same player ability.
Dude…
You are too modest.
Those are really good.
If you want to see a worse Widowmaker gamplay, just spectate me…