Just came from a match against sombra we won, i even killed her a few times but its annoying as hell to play against her in un coordinated environments no one wants to deal with her, everyone wants to push that job on someone.
they will rather run in and die than deal with sombra, and a few like me will end up doing it to make team win, but its like drinking stale milk.
I won i killed sombra many times but i got a headache and logged out came here and whined.
HOpefully you make her into a useful hero and less annoying.
This is not the annoying of pharmercy or genji or ball this is deep psychotic annoying.
It feels like taking some dirty slimy thing that fell on you and wont go away even when scrubbed.
Being invisible which means any time you flank you may be scouted by something you can’t see.
Wallhack passive on low targets which means she always knows when you are low and where are you hiding
You can’t kill her without one shots/stuns because she can just tp away
being hacked gives wallhack on you
being hacked interupts your abilities (which is a big deal for Ball piledrive, Hog self heal, Doom Block. Genji deflect/wallclimb and stuff like that)
she denies healthpacks
She comes out of nowhere, can be anywhere and you never know where she will strike. Maybe she is in Narnya hacking healthpacks and maybe she is standing right next to you waiting for tank to engage. And yes, getting hacked even for short time is massive when you get hacked at the correct time. Hacking Mercy when she is getting dove is probably her biggest counter in entire game.
Whole Sombra kit speaks to me as being frustrating mosquitoe who you can’t kill. I never saw even one person saying she is fun to play AGAINST. With? As? Maybe. But against she is just infuriating.
the think i think frustrating is a pharah mercy
a soldier mercy
and a hanzo 1 shot
and mcree granade
sry;(
sombra is my main for years and she deserves also love
only bcs you find it frustrated it doesnt mean you nerf her to the ground
or you rework her idenity
Those being frustrating doesn’t mean Sombra isn’t. There is many annoyances in OW let’s be honest. But while most characters have one thing about them that people may not like (usually one shots or CC), Sombra whole design is to being pesky which naturally is pretty annoying to deal with.
Is it a reason to nerf her? No. But it’s absolutely a reason to think about her rework that would potentially scrap a lot of her identity. Or you can have annoying hero in your game but whenever she becomes meta game will be obnoxious. PvP games rely on having fair playground for everyone involved. Being invisible without any limitations (like she used to have, invis wasn’t always infinite) and having perfect information because of that is just not fun to deal with.
Stopped playing her 2 seasons ago, she was my main, i have around 500 hours on her. She’s annoying but so easily countered where she can’t do anything really.
If your supports go Moira, Kiri Lucio or Brig it’s a gg. If the enemy has: Junkrat, Hanzo, Mccree, Soldier, flying heroes + Mercy, you should just switch cause you will have no value.
Sym too to an extent cause then it just becomes whos gonna hold their ult longest and ult last.
Tank wise Zarya and Orisa, Winston too. Ram can be annoying as hell too. She’s really good against super annoying heroes like Doomfist and Ball, which is super welcome cause those heroes either need to have hard counters or need to be reworked completely. If you don’t go sombra against a decent ball at the end of the match he’ll have 0 deaths. 8 out of 10 times.
So I can see her being frustrating if you don’t swap to any of the heroes i mentioned and counter her, but this applies to most every other hero. In terms of annoyance and value she’s less impactful than tracer imho, who I play now.
If she gets a rework on her hack completely, they need to rework ball and doomfist immediately. That’s all I’m gonna say
You never get the satisfaction of killing her because she presses a button that can’t be interuppted and just disappear. The same with ball, as for some reason he is one of the fastest heroes in the game yet has the most health (stupid design)
Her translocation even cleanses. Why? She is just fraustrating to play against. Can’t wait for her rework.
Dealing with sombra is frustrating even when you win
This is more of a player maturity problem, lack of it to be precise, if you had broad knowledge of game mechanics a reasonable person will find sombra uncomfortable when playing certain characters or someone easy to swat like a fly, playerbase is far too immature to have any sort of solid balance and the incompetent blizzard team will continue to pander to the common denominator for that easy popularity and $$$.
Let us not also kid ourselves into ignoring the fact that Sombra has two very powerful mechanics no other hero possesses.
Stealth and the ability to escape at the press of a button. If Genji or Tracer are trying to flank me I can hear them coming and shoot at them over open areas weakening them before they get to me. Along with them sacrificing hp, time, and cooldowns to do it.
Sombra goes into stealth and can use that single ability to bypass what every other character in the game has to adhere to at all.
Translocate only has one analogue which is teleport. Teleport has a 30m range, can only be used to allies. Translocate you can set-up where you want, then have your escape at the press of a button. You MUST burst kill Sombra or lock her out of translocate (hack/nade) to prevent her escape.
Compare this to any other flanking hero who after they are in, are very punishable for a failed dive because you can chase and pursue them in a reasonable manner due to being able to predict their path.
This falls into a highly annoying category rather than imbalanced. Your own team hates you for not helping to take pressure off us as its a 4v5 until Sombra reveals her location. The enemy team hates you for not acting like other characters that you can interact with in usual ways.
I play Hanjo and people complain that he is annoying so gut his one shot. Now I play Sombra and people say she is annoying because she does what she does.
Players just don’t want to adapt.
When she translocates out just destroy her team. Actual ability hack takes almost a full second, she is partially visible and can be interrupted by any damage in the game including a moira orb. She is out of combat so often I have like half the damage on her that a normal dps gets. Just be more aware.
Tracer is a frustrating mosquito too, but Blizzard doesn’t care if you find a hero annoying.
Gut? He still one shots pretty much any squishy hero. All that change did is let live Mei and Reaper both of which aren’t even popular. This change means very little for Hanzo…
I explained why Sombra design is infuriating and if you don’t find that reasonable then fine. Many people do find Sombra annoying for reasons stated, what Blizzard does with that is their choice.
Tracer isn’t nearly as obnoxious as Sombra despite being stronger hero. You see her coming, she doesn’t lock your abilities and she doesn’t have wallhack on low hp targets nor does she hack healthpacks. Tracer is annoying because she can zig zag around you which is very difficult to hit and she also has get out of jail for free ability (Recall) so she needs to mess up badly to die or get one tapped. Nerfs for Tracer are reasonable if you ask any high elo player but Blizzard may not want to do it because she is already rarely played in low elos where majority of playerbase sits.
I haven’t seen yet people who like to play into Sombra though. And she is niche in any elo I think.
Wall hack is very powerful I agree. I was surprised she got that extra tool when it was tacked on for no reason. I guess they felt she needed more consistency in her impact for being away from fights so often.
It’s very fun for the sombra player though to hunt down said players who refuse to play around healthpacks or their supports.
Supports literally also have a built in passive to get them above 50% hp.
I think it’s fun and fine. It can literally be shut off with proper map positioning and healing.
It could be nurfed though to be like apex soft wall hacks where it’s just a < > around their waist and doesn’t show you their exact outline.
It’s not even about playing around healthpacks (which may be hacked mind you) or supports. You may escape from failed flank and Sombra just knows it immediately. Biggest counter to Sombra playstyle is to play together at all times and never let her isolate anyone of you but this obviously limits angles which you can take and may be abused by rest of Sombra team.
…but so do you… play around that knowledge. Grab a mini healthpack somewhere, get healed, or expect her to uncloak and outplay her. Hug a corner and make her push into you. Idk.
That “play around” is to glue to your supports and not flank at all because maybe there is invisible Sombra already pinging your location. Boring and frustrating.