Critique a fellow Widowmaker?

I’ve never done this before, but I’d like to ask another opinion. The game in question, JNQ6Q0, I believe was a good game. It ended in victory, which is a good baseline for success. It was pretty tank intensive. Enemy team went double tank. I played widow the whole time, played her into everything with varying degrees of success.

Normally, I wouldn’t ask, but I’m trying to train my widow for next competitive season.

Appreciate harsh criticism. Don’t sugarcoat it. Thanks in advance. :+1:

Here is the link to the replay. 1st win on AntPen

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Dont have the game loaded right now. But 1,000+ hours on WM I can tell you there is a difference between “effective” play and ineffective play.

1 ) Don’t be the person that just duels another widow. swap.

2 ) Flanking is what makes the wins. I get into a spot behind the enemy team, sneak around and fight them from the direction they are not looking. It makes for very disruptive fights.

3 ) Enemy torbs get a BS pass that their turret is essentially just a bot that has equal aiming as you do for precision. Those stupid turrets lock on at incredible ranges. best to swap and counter torb. don’t waste your time taking shots at the turret, the torb just keeps repairing it. and most of the time you will whiff shots because of the absurd bs push-back from the turret.

4 ) If someone swaps to widow to counter you, swap to Sombra and make them regret every waking moment.

5 ) if its 3-round CP. play widow, then swap ashe or junkrat so people don’t expect you to hard-lock.

6 ) If you are being repeatedly bullied on widow by groups. Swap and bully that said person with sombra. until they rage quit. Or bully them with Pharah or Mei.

7 ) If enemy team has Sojourn. its GG. go find another character to play. That rail gun has low-risk high reward. I use to main Sojurn too :slight_smile:

8 ) The map is your playground. Play out of sight. out of mind. Move constantly and you will drive the enemy team MAD. High grounds is not always the best thing.

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Lots of food for thought. I didn’t realize Soj was such a counter. She is formidable, though. You’re right about Torb, plus he’s extra tanky lately. I think I’m getting more comfortable playing widow. Sombra makes me paranoid. I’ve been lucky in QP so far. Players don’t always swap to Sombra.

The replay is up now. Type 1st win on AntPen in search. Should come up. I’ll post a link to YouTube when I get home.

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This is excellent to start with. Just because you think the enemy Widow is worse than you based on what you see them doing, that doesn’t mean they’ll continue acting the same when you try to duel them. You could end up making them actually try, or you could find out that they’re really good at Widow duels and just okay at the rest of Widow’s gameplay. Just stomp them with a counterpick and save your teammates from having to play around a Widow.

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hey its okay to not know the counters. They change too! :smiley:

Disruptor shot is an attack that forces a widow to play out of the original position and they have to relocate. plus the railgun’s alt fire really sends a strong beam down rage.

It offers more damage for less. And has a much bigger hitbox.

I need to play again and maybe post some replay codes. I typically “work” the map as such and play different positions at all times. Kings Row and Durado are my favorite.

Typically if you play Widowmaker. Play by the rules of:

A ) do NOT fire your weapon for any reason in a spawn room or while setting up a defense. The enemy team can hear you an know how to call out your presence and to “be ready for you”. They will also listen for your boots and it is a VERY unique sound that people listen for. I

  • try and stay FAR back, and if I am setting up an attack room ambush. I stay crouched and walk.

B ) if you are playing Kings Row on attack. EVERYONE can predict that you are going to go window. So don’t. Go far left, almost EVERY time.

Almost EVERY enemy widow on “defense” sets up behind the statute. DONT be them. But you can get up on the ledge. land the shot because they are scoped in down range at the primary spawn door and it catches them off guard.

From here you can choose to swap if they continue playing widow. If they continue. I swap. If not. just keep going.

“Working” kings row is a matter of working the top ledge. from the bus and attacking from the Right side aiming to the first objective point. just “take shots” down that sight line and if need be. Work on damage to shields. They do break. At the right time, you can get in behind the enemy team and sneak past and “set up shop” in those windows and attack backwards from the objective and begin breaking their team’s focus and this allows your team to move in for the assault.

On defense; I almost always take RH business at the first choke point and watch window from a sharp angle. Almost gets an enemy widow every time.

C ) stay out of sight from your attacker’s spawn. if your character starts an automatic voiceline. FALL back, so it stays out of the audio range.

Last but not least. I keep Match and team chat off. I dont need to hear people raging in chat at me, and I have to be my own boss. It is called “Overwatch” overwatch means “sniper”.

I memorized where all the health packs are, I do not call out for healing. and if someone heals me. Great. I will endorse them.

If your team plays around you, you will do amazing. If they dont. just swap off and don’t waste your time. its luck of the draw. You can do this! :+1:

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With well more than a thousand hours, you’ve had a lot time to think about this.

I do try to keep my existence hidden. By now though, the mention of my gamertag might be enough indication. My overall style isn’t especially fancy, and I could stand to use the grapple more to increase my mobility. It’s on a rather long cooldown so I hate to use it.

1 of my main issues on widow is I’m not always consistent. I can alternate between lethal accuracy to something more like that of a stormtrooper. Yikes. I’m actually surprised I was able to do as well on Antarctic, not really knowing the map. Then again it may have helped that my targets were rather large. Lots of tanks in that game.

thats just part of having “good days” and “bad days” i use to open up the game and go right to training room every day and then Q into matches after the fact. It helped me deliver better performance.

After match making became really bad. I stopped worrying about it so much.

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